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Neil deGrasse Tyson Blasts Creationism In New 'Cosmos' Episode (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/31/neil-degrasse-tyson-creationism_n_5065156.html#conversation-5065156-310098071
While the Darwinian Modern Synthesis' world view believes that each life's properties are reducible to LUCA (Last Universal Common Ancestor), the ID's world view brings on cellular properties suggesting that they were connected by intelligent creation. Only here in America, the materialists and creationists and students are stimulated by the fight from the another side, to continuing the search for their "LUCA". I think that Russia, England, etc, the dominance of materialist doctrine works as Science-stopper, it is not such stimulated.
My personal investigation suggested a third world view: " There is irreducible complexity in relation to Earth because LUCA was born as an astronomical system, so, there is no irreducible complexity in relation to Milk Way".
Now I ask you: if my theoretical results will be the right one, and if the students know this third possibility, who will discover the truth? America, because here humans brains are being challenged by their fellows countrymen. Thanks atheists, thanks creationists, THANKS AMERICA!
Resposta:
1) Irreducible complexity?
For not mention those advocated by ID, tell me:
a) I know that reproduction is reducible to replication which could be initiated by primordial RNA. From here, RNA, replication is reduced to what physical process of non-organic matter?
b) The first RNA/DNA, or the ability for memory and code: what was the element doing that before them? Please don't point out crystals...
3) The mammal ability to keep eggs inside a womb, is reduced to which prior species or any natural system?
Ok, I mentioned just three now that I remember, which can be reduced to LUCA, if my model of the building block of galaxies will be proved right.I am sure, there are tens more...
2) People of those countries are not accepting the Science that the founder fathers at Iluminism were talking about. It was Science by Science, the search of knowledge of Nature for getting the freedom from ignorance and increasing the power of humankind for getting a better life. At that time there were 500.000 persons being tortured by slavery, today there are 7 billion? We lost, against numbers there is no reasoning. And that is because Science is funding for getting profit, military power, and is being used by the big predators for slavery of the the prey. They are not practicing natural science any more, but materialism and mechanicism, which drive every research to selecting one and discriminating other data.
For not mention those advocated by ID, tell me:
a) I know that reproduction is reducible to replication which could be initiated by primordial RNA. From here, RNA, replication is reduced to what physical process of non-organic matter?
b) The first RNA/DNA, or the ability for memory and code: what was the element doing that before them? Please don't point out crystals...
3) The mammal ability to keep eggs inside a womb, is reduced to which prior species or any natural system?
Ok, I mentioned just three now that I remember, which can be reduced to LUCA, if my model of the building block of galaxies will be proved right.I am sure, there are tens more...
2) People of those countries are not accepting the Science that the founder fathers at Iluminism were talking about. It was Science by Science, the search of knowledge of Nature for getting the freedom from ignorance and increasing the power of humankind for getting a better life. At that time there were 500.000 persons being tortured by slavery, today there are 7 billion? We lost, against numbers there is no reasoning. And that is because Science is funding for getting profit, military power, and is being used by the big predators for slavery of the the prey. They are not practicing natural science any more, but materialism and mechanicism, which drive every research to selecting one and discriminating other data.
3) No, I have no beliefs, only doubts.
#1
"The first RNA/DNA, or the ability for memory and code: what was the element doing that before them?"
--Don't know, but that doesn't equate to evidence that nucleic acids are irreducibly complex. Surely you know that.
"The mammal ability to keep eggs inside a womb, is reduced to which prior species or any natural system?"
--Not sure. But you could just trying using Google.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/ancient-snakes-lizards-gave-birth-to-live-young-1.2469164
All of your examples seem to be little more than pointing to a knowledge gap and claiming irreducibly complexity. That's not IC, that's a logical fallacy.
#2 -No idea what you're talking about.
"The first RNA/DNA, or the ability for memory and code: what was the element doing that before them?"
--Don't know, but that doesn't equate to evidence that nucleic acids are irreducibly complex. Surely you know that.
"The mammal ability to keep eggs inside a womb, is reduced to which prior species or any natural system?"
--Not sure. But you could just trying using Google.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/ancient-snakes-lizards-gave-birth-to-live-young-1.2469164
All of your examples seem to be little more than pointing to a knowledge gap and claiming irreducibly complexity. That's not IC, that's a logical fallacy.
#2 -No idea what you're talking about.
You: "Don't know, but that doesn't equate to evidence that nucleic acids are irreducibly complex. Surely you know that".
Me: And it doesn't equate to evidence that nucleic acids are reducibly complex to something existing at Earth before the first nucleic acids. I know that all elements composing the nucleic acids are terrestrial elements ( carbon, nitrogen, etc.) but I don't know any structure organized by those atoms that could be the prior evolutionary link.And nobody knows it. Things becomes easy if we consider the astronomical model from matrix/DNA Theory, where the nucleic acids as bits of informations of RNA/DNA has the same configuration of the building block of astronomical systems. It means that nucleic acids are not reducible to a terrestrial LUCA, because LUCA is an astronomical structure to which Earth belongs to...
You: "You could trying just..."
Thanks by the link, I will see it with time. But I had made extensive research and never found any other explanation than the Matrix/DNA Theory.
You: "That's not IC, that's a logical fallacy"
I think that the fundamentals explanations from the current reductive scientific world view about how this stupid matter of this lost planet invented, created from nothing, the life's properties (metabolism, reproduction, sexual apparatus, breathing, etc.), is a logical fallacy. It is mystical.When you ask questions they answer like you did: "Don't know..." It is like creationists when you asked explanations: Oh...nobody knows the mind and purposes of God..."
Me: And it doesn't equate to evidence that nucleic acids are reducibly complex to something existing at Earth before the first nucleic acids. I know that all elements composing the nucleic acids are terrestrial elements ( carbon, nitrogen, etc.) but I don't know any structure organized by those atoms that could be the prior evolutionary link.And nobody knows it. Things becomes easy if we consider the astronomical model from matrix/DNA Theory, where the nucleic acids as bits of informations of RNA/DNA has the same configuration of the building block of astronomical systems. It means that nucleic acids are not reducible to a terrestrial LUCA, because LUCA is an astronomical structure to which Earth belongs to...
You: "You could trying just..."
Thanks by the link, I will see it with time. But I had made extensive research and never found any other explanation than the Matrix/DNA Theory.
You: "That's not IC, that's a logical fallacy"
I think that the fundamentals explanations from the current reductive scientific world view about how this stupid matter of this lost planet invented, created from nothing, the life's properties (metabolism, reproduction, sexual apparatus, breathing, etc.), is a logical fallacy. It is mystical.When you ask questions they answer like you did: "Don't know..." It is like creationists when you asked explanations: Oh...nobody knows the mind and purposes of God..."
" I don't know any structure organized by those atoms that could be the prior evolutionary link.And nobody knows it."
--So all we have is an unknown. There was a very recent paper that hints at a possible explanation. The findings are very preliminary and don't fully address the question of how the first molecules of life arose, but it does point to the distinct possibility that it all happened on Earth.
Non‐enzymatic glycolysis and pentose phosphate pathway‐like reactions in a plausible Archean ocean
http://msb.embopress.org/content/10/4/725
"I had made extensive research and never found any other explanation than the Matrix/DNA Theory. "
--Ok, so 'we don't know' is the best answer. I agree. We don't know exactly how life began. It's an area of active research.
--So all we have is an unknown. There was a very recent paper that hints at a possible explanation. The findings are very preliminary and don't fully address the question of how the first molecules of life arose, but it does point to the distinct possibility that it all happened on Earth.
Non‐enzymatic glycolysis and pentose phosphate pathway‐like reactions in a plausible Archean ocean
http://msb.embopress.org/content/10/4/725
"I had made extensive research and never found any other explanation than the Matrix/DNA Theory. "
--Ok, so 'we don't know' is the best answer. I agree. We don't know exactly how life began. It's an area of active research.
You: "There was a very recent paper that hints at a possible explanation"
Thanks by the link I will read it. But I am sure it does not adress the process of reducible complexity. There are hundreds of papers like that, each one bring new useful information, but all them try to describe the formation of the first nucleic acids, based on new connections among atoms, new catalysts, etc. This is argument used by those that advocates irreducible complexity, the very fact that the nucleic acids are not reducible to an atom, or anything else.
At Matrix/DNA Theory I am suggesting a model of astronomical building blocks that has the same configuration and functionality of a lateral pair of nucleotides. If the model will be proved right, we found the ancestor to which they are reducible.
The secret here is that a lateral pair of nucleotides is a complete system, works as a system. So it must be reducible to a prior system.
Thanks by the link I will read it. But I am sure it does not adress the process of reducible complexity. There are hundreds of papers like that, each one bring new useful information, but all them try to describe the formation of the first nucleic acids, based on new connections among atoms, new catalysts, etc. This is argument used by those that advocates irreducible complexity, the very fact that the nucleic acids are not reducible to an atom, or anything else.
At Matrix/DNA Theory I am suggesting a model of astronomical building blocks that has the same configuration and functionality of a lateral pair of nucleotides. If the model will be proved right, we found the ancestor to which they are reducible.
The secret here is that a lateral pair of nucleotides is a complete system, works as a system. So it must be reducible to a prior system.
You: "We don't know exactly how life began. It's an area of active research."
That's great! And yours words explains why I am critizing Tyson here. We don't know exactly how the universe began. Then, the students should be stimulated to practice Science, because it is an area for active research. Byt, when Tyson says that there was a Big bang and made by a small marble containing all energy and galaxies, he is doing the same that a priest saying that there was god. Final answer, no need more research.Same case for consciousness developing from brains of primates. Or life coming from non-organic matter.
At Matrix/DNA Theory, makes no sense talking about how life began. We talk about how biological systems were developed from atomic and astronomical systems. If one is "life" all of them must be too. That's why I elaborated a new cosmological model:for to fit as evolutionary link between these systems. The method is sample: comparative anatomy between the systems as ancestors and the system at the evolutionary top.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxThat's great! And yours words explains why I am critizing Tyson here. We don't know exactly how the universe began. Then, the students should be stimulated to practice Science, because it is an area for active research. Byt, when Tyson says that there was a Big bang and made by a small marble containing all energy and galaxies, he is doing the same that a priest saying that there was god. Final answer, no need more research.Same case for consciousness developing from brains of primates. Or life coming from non-organic matter.
At Matrix/DNA Theory, makes no sense talking about how life began. We talk about how biological systems were developed from atomic and astronomical systems. If one is "life" all of them must be too. That's why I elaborated a new cosmological model:for to fit as evolutionary link between these systems. The method is sample: comparative anatomy between the systems as ancestors and the system at the evolutionary top.
'Cosmos' Host Attacks Young Earth Creationism in Episode
http://www.christianpost.com/news/cosmos-host-attacks-young-earth-creationism-in-episode-117258/
12:12 PM on April 05, 2014
These people debating the age of the Universe forgets the relativistic effect of space/time on observers. Creationism could be right as an observer talking about the origins of human consciousness, which coincides with the beginnings of life perceiving the Universe, and materialists could be right as an observer talking about the origins of universal consciousness, which coincides with the origins of the Universe. This is a complex issue for Matrix/DNA Theory describing it here, but it shows that it is arrogance when human beings debates what they don't know.
The other argument against ID - the invention by Earth of eyes - also is a relativistic issue. Think about this:
Any female womb can reproduce the image of an existent being into another being. Do womb have eyes, vision? Oh, it is not the womb, but an entity, called genome/DNA, inserted inside the womb. Yes, but long before the sea creatures, the first living cell was doing it. It does not matter if there is genome or not, the first cell saw one image of a creature and reproduced it. It happens because the natural mechanisms for developing eyes or another way for knowing images is disponible in the Cosmos since its origins. The Matrix/DNA Theory can explain how a single vortex at a galactic nucleus 10 billion years ago could "see" external images.
I think that these people, both, materialists and creationists, haven't thought enough the data we have today. If they do it, will finish this debate, which makes no rational sense.
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Gary Heinrich Jr. (theone0031)
In today's world of superstition and denial, Mr. Tyson is like a breath of fresh air and his logic, undeniably true!
I don't think that China, Korea, Russia, Germany, England, etc, are being ruled by superstition and denialists leaders. And I think that their social systems are wrong, because still based upon the primitive animal and salvage rules of the jungle, shared into predators and preys. Then, I am careful when I am suspecting that Tyson's logics is going to the same direction of those countries. Of course, should be worst if Tyson's logics was going towards religious superstitions.
But, please, show to me, where and when you saw any natural process reaching extreme singularity? Like that supposed by the theoretical model pointing to the existence of black holes produced by singularity? My personal investigation has suggested that Nature never permits to anything reaching singularity. When any natural system, body, object, collapses or expands, it is stopped before the last and no-backwards state of singularity. It is transformed before reaching that point. If Nature had permitted it, the Universe never could build and fixing the first atom, never leaving out from the initial chaos. Evolution is the result of a universal natural system walking up a stair, lifting up three levels, falling two, stopping at a platform before reaching the first, and begins new evolutionary cycle from the second level, lifting up more three, etc.
There are no ghosts monsters cannibals black holes hidden into galaxies' nucleus. Maybe there are merely single vortexes. But, if you change black holes by vortexes, the whole Tyson's logics and meanings falls down But, please, show to me, where and when you saw any natural process reaching extreme singularity? Like that supposed by the theoretical model pointing to the existence of black holes produced by singularity? My personal investigation has suggested that Nature never permits to anything reaching singularity. When any natural system, body, object, collapses or expands, it is stopped before the last and no-backwards state of singularity. It is transformed before reaching that point. If Nature had permitted it, the Universe never could build and fixing the first atom, never leaving out from the initial chaos. Evolution is the result of a universal natural system walking up a stair, lifting up three levels, falling two, stopping at a platform before reaching the first, and begins new evolutionary cycle from the second level, lifting up more three, etc.
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( http://ncse.com/blog/2014/03/cosmos-wars-episode-iii-revenge-silliness-0015469 )
TheMatrixDNA • 8 minutes ago
"American television audiences seem more interested in competitive singing than real science."
( http://ncse.com/blog/2014/03/cosmos-wars-episode-iii-revenge-silliness-0015469 )
TheMatrixDNA • 8 minutes ago
"American television audiences seem more interested in competitive singing than real science."
And the culprit are people like Tyson, who are the new
sacerdotes of the dominant doctrine at schools. Like any other religion, the
disciples that go to church and listen to the priest, are blind and inactive
for inquiring and improving the old scripture, because who has the power of
getting informations direct from the source (God) are not them. The modern
student never mind that would be possible to be another Newton, Einstein,
Halley - they were the apostles like Matheus, Paulus, etc, which were alive
when informations were disponible and fresh, could be got by someone direct
with the source. Today there are millions of scientists and discoveries happens
with teams that have access to most powerful technology. The diminution of
assistance from the Cosmos of Sagan and the Cosmos of Tyson is due the normal
evolution of any doctrine. When faith is established, curiosity is dead.
But, Tyson and those communicating Science today are unconscious
about the disservice they are doing to Science. "Today we know how a comet
is born..."says Tyson. Who had watched the formation and birth of a
comet?! "There was the Big Bang and before that a microscope atom..."
My God, this is not the language of Science! Prove it, through lab experiments!
"Today we know how a star is born..." But, such event must take
millions or billions years, how could the human species culture that began
15.000 years ago watching such event? Computer simulations, mathematical
calculus, theories about light waves, etc... is not scientific fact. It is
theories.
Science-stoppers. If they have the final answers for everything,
how the youngers will be stimulated for searching,... what?!
Applying the ancient method of comparative anatomy among natural
systems, I got total different answers about the origins of the Universe, life,
stars, comets, etc. There are lots of another methods and possible theories. A
TV program wishing to stimulate kids for Science should give voice for all
different theories, and the controversy would keep opened minds instead
faithful minds. The modern academic world view elaborating the scholar
curriculum today is not scientific anymore and the founder fathers of
Illuminism failed in a trap: they criticized religions, but, their creation became
same thing.
E o meu
reply a mim mesmo, publicado:
Tyson began this episode holding a baby. Just what I should do
in a TV show for communicating the opposite world view. Inserting a camera
inside a fresh ovule, watching the spermatozoon coming as a comet, having its
membrane-envelope exploded in a great ovular explosion like the Big Bang, the
matter expanding like a blastulae where galaxies should be cells, than, the
shapes of fish, reptile, mamifero, recapitulating biological evolution, and
finally, showing a baby at my arms, asking to people which or what's the baby
that this Universe is generating? Creationists should be satisfied: "it is
the son of God!" Them, showing that inside this Universe it seems that is
occurring a normal process of genetic reproduction, I would talking by
suspicion that it must be the son of a natural non-magical conscious ex-machine
system. And we could do this show with the same real scientific facts, only
changing theories. The communicators of Science today ( as Lawrence Krauss with
his "Something from Nothing", or Dawkins given personality and
purposes to a bunch of atoms called genes, or Hawkings seeing ghost black holes
where there is none) forgot that Cosmos is Nature like which we have here
because they are listening to the world view narrated by simulations of the
electro-mechanical brain which became the spy of non visible macro and
micro-dimensions through its mechanical sensors... The real scientific facts we
have today are pointing out that our Universe is more like a living thing than
the machine aroused by chance they are believing... Creationists are wrong,
but, sorry, the academic mindset is wrong also... Then, teach first only the
real facts, no computer simulations. Them, teach all theoretical controversies,
all interpretations of those facts, this will stimulate the mind of our kids...
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Este novo
show intitulado "Cosmos" ainda vai dar muito o que falar,
principalmente porque mexe com a mais inquietante pergunta atormentando humanos
- qual a verdade sobre a minha existencia e a existencia deste mundo? Vai dar
muita discussão porque o programa pretende ser uma resposta a esta pergunta,
mas não apresenta com lógica, racionalidade, sensatez, as provas para sua
resposta, dando margem a quem não partilha da mesma ideologia revoltar-se e
aclamar sua revolta. Por isso vou abrir este capitulo para ir acompanhando o
desenrolar do evento.
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E no
artigo do Los Angeles Times, eu participo nos comentarios:
Oklahoma Fox station accidentally cuts evolution scene from
'Cosmos'
- Meu comentario:
- Louis Morelli Guest
- March, 13, 2014
Insisting with magical thinking that life and universe emerges
from magical accidents is a science-stopper and plays the game of the other
face of the same coin - the creationism magical thinking - then, we have this
game-war going again and again.
This is a war between two different and poetic telling of the
same event, both half/truth, half/wrong. Neil's interpretation of universal
history is external world based while ID is the same universal history
internally DNA based. Expansion, contraction of human mind, both wrong because
both are extremes, while the right one is a third interpretation, the product
that arises from extremes conflicts and interactions.
Why Neil and his colleagues does not go to Oklahoma court
claiming this "cut"? Because the advocates of creationism could ask
scientific proofs for biological evolution and Neil can not show them, besides
lots of evidences. And why Neil can not show a lab experiment where non-organic
matter evolves into human beings and consciousness? Because the Darwinian
mechanisms (VSI) are not enough for producing biological evolution, there are
hidden variables still unknown that are missing for a successful lab historical
reproduction of biological evolution. There are four hidden variables as
suggested by Matrix/DNA Theory. These hidden variables connects biological
evolution with cosmological evolution by a unique chain of causes and effects,
but, then, the final interpretations seems to be metaphysics, which is not the
wish of Neil's materialistic view point.
Host and astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson
shares a story about meeting an inspirational force in his life in the series
premiere episode of "Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey." (Daniel Smith / Fox / March 13, 2014)
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A escola recebe uma criança vinda de uma familia que tentou
preencher algumas paginas de sua mente com um tipo de educação, e acrescenta
mais outro tipo de educação. Da soma destas duas educações surge uma
personalidade baseada numa interpretação particular do mundo, a qual é seu/sua
filho(a). Até a pouco tempo coincidiam a educação familiar e escolar, ambas
interpretavam o mundo do ponto de vista da religião judaico-cristã. Nos
tempos modernos a escola mudou essa interpretação e uma diferente espécie de
personalidade está sendo construida dentro das mentes dos jovens. Se esta nova
interpretação é a melhor ou não, não cabe a mim decidir, porem, sinto que ela
contem maus ingredientes, que podem afetar a vida dos jovens. Por exemplo, a
maioria dos jovens do mundo agora estará assistindo uma nova versão de
“Cosmos”, que foi apresentada por Carl Sagan nos anos 80, e agora será apresentada
por um astrofisico, Neil Tysson. Logo de cara, deparo com uma frase proferida
por ele, a qual me incomoda. Diz o seguinte: ” Nossas moleculas são
originadas por estrelas que explodiram e espalharam estes elementos através da
galaxia.”Ora, isso não é verdade cientifica! Isto é teoria em moda num
determinado e temporario estado de evolução das Ciências Humanas. Não existem
dados comprovados cientificamente para fazer tal afirmação. Mas se foi dito por
um representante da moderna escola acadêmica, os jovens engolem isso
automaticamente como se fosse verdade estabelecida. E assim caem numa armadilha
fatal.Ninguem filmou uma estrela explodindo e seus atomos vindos para a Terra
tornando-se as moleculas da vida aqui. Os calculos matematicos atuais e os modelos
astronomicos da fisica atual sugerem que isso aconteceu, mas… existem muitas
evidencias sugerindo que a Matematica e a Fisica não possuem suporte cientifico
e informativo para explicarem o que é a Vida. Mesmo que tivessem filmado
esta sequencia de estrelas explodindo, moléculas organicas vindo e se formando
em mais complexas moleculas, etc., ainda não seria suficiente para
sacramentar a teoria. Pois vamos supor que temos um filme de
um homem vindo da Asia, chegando aqui e explodindo uma bomba. gerando estragos.
Este filme não explicaria nada do ocorrido, pois a causa, a razão, e o
planejamento da ação, estariam invisiveis dentro da cabeça do homem, que
poderia ter conexões com seitas religiosas, etc. Assim é a vida: as suas
causas, suas razões, seus controles, não aparecem no filme feito pela fisica e
a matematica. Continuam desconhecidas pelas Ciencias Humanas, esta é a verdade
que a escola tem que deixar bem claro aos jovens. Mas se a imprensa
disser que o homem é um terrorista, a maioria dos espectadores já encerram o
assunto pensando que entenderam tudo, sabem tudo. Assim tambem a escola moderna
diz que o mundo é pura matéria, e todo jovem que assistiu o filme sairá
pensando que entendeu tudo, sabe tudo.Que tipo de personalidade terá uma pessoa
que acredita que veio de explosão de estrelas… ao sabor do acaso? Será uma
personalidade mais saudavel ou mais doentia do que aquela personalidade que
acredita que veio de uma entidade mágica existindo no céu? Mas se estas duas
interpretações do mundo estiverem erradas, que estrago teremos feito nas mentes
dos nossos jovens?E podem estarem erradas pois existem muitas outras
possibilidades de se montarem teorias com os poucos dados realmente aprovados
que as Ciências tem hoje. Basta pensar um pouco sobre estes dados
espalhados sobre uma mesa e ver como se podem conecta-los de manira nunca
imaginada antes. Eu mesmo, um semi-macaco vindo das selvas como escravo fugido
da civilização fui capaz de mkontar uma fdestas teorias que ninquem, baseado em
todos os dados da Ciencia, consegue derrubar. Na minha teoria, existem astros
produzindo os elementos, os elementos se tornando moléculas, estas chegando à
Vida como está hoje, porem, em toda esta história é mostrada uma entidade
invisivel oculta no meio dessa matéria, com suas causas, suas razões, seus
planos, fluindo atraves da galaxia. Não é materialismo, não é deísmo, não sei
ainda o que é, mas uma coisa é certa porque estou aqui como prova: ela
dissemina uma nova visão da existencia e o seu novo código moral. Mas o
mais importante: toda vez que nela falo faço questão antes de avisar: trata-se
de mera teoria. E mais: nãp pode ser a verdfade Ultima porque o meu pequenino
cérebro não tem capacidade para conhecer a Verdade Ultima. A Ciência, a Igreja,
seus professores, seus cientistas e sacerdotes deveriam ter a franqueza e a
honestidade moral para dizerem isso. Eu penso que
as estatisticas revelam que dentre a enorme massa de estudantes drogados hoje a
maioria é da parte materialista e não da parte dos misticos. Posso estar
errado. Que respeito terá por seus pais uma criança que “sabe” que seus pais
são meros macacos melhorados? Se realmente forem não seria certo mentir ou
ocultar isso dos jovens, mas ninguem tem provas cientificas de que isto é
certo. Existe o filme da sequencia da evolução dos fósseis, mas o filme não
revela a invisivel causa dentro do agente da evolução. Como o homem-bomba que
veio da Asia, a Vida mantem seus segredos ocultos à escola moderna, esta
não poderia estar formando, impondo, tipos de personalidades a crianças
ingênuas. Estão substituindo o errado por outra coisa igual que carrega o mesmo
êrro em seu bôjo? Todo humano tem o direito de chegar aos seus 21 anos como
dono supremo e exclusivo da sua mente, para preenche-la por sua própria conta
na sua vida adulta. Você tem que se unir a mim nesta luta inglória e
solitaria, se tens algum amor por nossas futuras gerações. Depois da mente
preenchida, o humano será para sempre um escravo daquela ideologia… e de quem
tira proveito dela. Link
para o artigo:Neil DeGrasse Tyson Explains Why The Cosmos Shouldn’t Make You
Feel Smallhttp://www.opb.org/artsandlife/article/npr-neil-degrasse-tyson-explains-why-the-cosmos-shouldnt-make-you-feel-small/Deixei o seguinte comentario postado no artigo:TheMatrixDNA• Sat, March, 01, 2014
“Our molecules are traceable to stars that exploded and spread
these elements across the galaxy,” he explains.
Don’t say that, it is no good for kids and you could be teaching
a wrong world view forming a wrong personality. There are no data that makes
our molecules traceable to exploded stars, I challenge you bring them on the
table. My mother did not explode for giving me birth. Reptiles did not exploded
for giving birth to mammals, Earth did not exploded for giving birth to life.
Every kind of birth that we know were ruled by genetic process. Why one should
invent mechanisms that never was seen at any place, for explaining the unknown?
What is the difference here with religion? Now, Matrix/DNA Theory is suggesting
models about how life emerged here by astro-embryogenesis process, which is the
prior non-biological mechanism of genetic transmissions. These models suggests
that biological systems came from astronomical systems, not by explosions under
chance that never could building something complex as organic molecules. There
are models suggesting that building blocks ogf galaxies fits very well as
ancestrals of the first cell system. No explosions, no magics, no origins,
everything running inside an universal chain of causes and effects since the
Big Bang. Kids knowing that we came from beyond the Big bang, beyond the
Universe, will have a more heathier mind than those believing that we arose by
chance from exploded stars, which is merely a theory.
He’s talking about the fact that when stars explode they create
( cook) the heavier elements such as carbon and iron. These elements are what
we are made of. Hence why we come from exploding stars.
A theory, from a scientific perspective, is an explanation for
an observation that has been confirmed by the evidence. By saying that it “is
merely a theory” is a gross ignorance of science in general. Relativity,
evolution, plate tectonics and germs being the causes of disease are all
theories.
This is why we need Cosmos to air to the United States and the
world.
You never will be able to show that “when stars explode they
create ( cook) the heavier elements such as carbon and iron” and you know that.
It is not logical that heavier atoms are produced throught explosions,instead,
it is logical that they are produced by implosions, collapses. Like my theory
is suggesting they are produced by galactic nuclear vortex mixing stars dust.
And you really think that an infant mind of an American kid will be formed as a
good citizen while believing that his/her origins remonted by explosions and
events by chance?! By the way, it is not a scientific statement and can not
tought as thru to our kids. Cosmos is necessary and good for our culture, but,
it can not be used by any ideology.
Minha resposta a Vulpess55:
TheMatrixDNA – march, 04, 2014
You confirmed what I said. A theory, from a scientific
perspective, is an explanation for an observation that has been confirmed by
the evidence. When the explanation is confirmed by real facts, it is no longer
a theory, it is a scientific statement. Now, please, show me the real fact ( a
movie of the event) proving that heavier and more complex atoms are formed by
cooking at explosions. I am not a physicist but everybody knows that high
temperatures dissolves the most complexes elements and medium to low
temperatures permits the organization and formation of them. Is it
wrong? The theoretical astronomical model of Matrix/DNA suggests another
mechanism for formation of those heavier elements and instead esxplosions they
are based on implosions, collapses at lower temperatures. By the way, it is not
a scientific fact, it is a theory, built by a private world view and the series
Cosmos – a good and necessary initiative for leaving Science to people –
could not be driving by any ideology.
Outro artigo:
Neil DeGrasse Tyson Takes on the Cosmos
Palavras de Tyson: “…. because the country needs an infusion of
what it is to celebrate and embrace science literacy
and what value that can have in your life…
Wired: The show
isn’t only about space, it’s also about the scientific process and what science
means. Was this focus on scientific evangelism a
planned part of the series?
“… there’s an appetite out there that had previously
been underserved….”
“…. There’s an inner geek in us
all, an inner bit of curiosity that people are discovering, and they like
it…This is another opportunity in the mainstreaming of science…”
“…. those who are studying
how you go from organic molecules to self-replicating life. That transition
remains a mystery and it’s got a lot of people scratching their heads, so I’m
watching that space to see what comes out of it… “
” Tyson: It’s
important because it’s humbling. And it’s always better to
be humbled than to be bigheaded. You’re humbled because you
learn how small you are in space, how small you are in time, and this
benchmarks how you feel about yourself and about others. I think
with the cosmic perspective it’s very hard to lead armies into war. I don’t
think it’s ever been an astrophysicist who’s done that.”
‘ NASA says: “I want to find out
scientifically how the universe works. I will send a space probe, I will use a
telescope, I will do whatever I need to do to learn that.’
“… But here’s the test – if you go to a geologist and
say, ‘We can send you to this one spot on Mars, or we could send 30 rovers to
30 different locations, for the same cost, and you get all the data back from
those 30 rover, which do you choose?’ They choose the rovers, in a heartbeat.”
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Meu comentario postado
aqui:
TheMatrixDNA• Friday,
march, 07 – 2014
Thanks Neil, our people need
information about real Nature and stimulus for their evolution. But there are
several dangerous prejudices caused to people due the scientific evangelism and
ideology, you could fix it before going to public. Instead stimulus for
curiosity this is a killer of curiosity like any other religion and instead
bringing on the human bein for to be synchronized with natural evolution this
ideology is driving them to go “more and more away off the bean”. I can’t
explain it here. Let’s see what you said:
“… embrace science literacy and
what value that can have in your life…”
Science is the new sacerdote
interpreting the real world for kids. Better than those of “magical thinking”
still it is a very limited and reduced thinking. Then we can not teach our
theories as scientific statements, like you said “…how you go from organic
molecules to self-replicating life”. This is not scientific fact, it is theory,
there are lots of rational possibilities for emergence of primordial cells
systems. I have found one: my theoretical models of building blocks of atomic
and astronomical systems has the same configuration and functionality of a
base-pair of nucleotides, of living cells systems and till the configuration of
human brains. Since that those building blocks are systems and not organic molecules,
life has no origins here, it is not different from our ancestrals till the Big
Bang and beyond it, inserting a very different world view into the mind of
human beings. What will be as adult a teenage believing that parents are
merelly descendants of monkeys? But while neurology does not explain the
interaction between synapses and thoughts nobody can say scientifically that
humans are resumed to monkeys. This is theory. What will be a teenage believing
that is merelly product of stars dust and big bangs? My models tells a
different history keeping the mind opened for a more proudness ancestry and
humans more concerned about the whole Humanity. I have merelly a theory, but,
as I can’t do it with yours theory, you also can not destroy my theory because
you have no scientific data for it. The series Cosmos could be beautiful and a
great initiative, an heroic act, if it could drive the public to be open mind.
Not only humble as you said, because humbly leads creatures to be like preys
and unhappy. See my model of “The Human Cosmic Code” and unterstand what I am
saying.
And yours suggestion to NASA is
not all mentally healthier correct also. Physics and Maths has developed tools
that are extensions of humans brain’s sensors for studying the invisible
micro and macro dimensions, then, have connected these sensors to a
electric-mechanical brain. The computers are furnishing the informations of
these dimensions and by simulations, are building these theories and our world
view. But as any different observer other than the biological brain with its
own sensors, the mechanical brain will select data that fits its level of
perception and descriminating all data outside it. So our scientists studying
the Cosmos are like microbes living inside cells inside the skeleton of a human
body grasping only the mechanical natural laws and projecting these mechanical
laws towards the coverture of soft meat and mind. It does not works. The result
is this mechanical world view where could be possible something coming from nothing!
I applied a different method, the reverse one, starting from biological systems
and projecting these laws over the skeleton, the structure of Cosmos, and the
results are suggesting processes, mechanisms, out there, that scientists are
not grasping. It is theory against theory, different investigative methods, but
equally rationals. Ours goal must be teaching all controversies, all theorys,
for not closing and killing our evolution.
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Thanks Neil, our people need information about real Nature and
stimulus for wish their evolution. But that are several
dangerous prejudices caused to people due the scientific evangelism
and ideology, you could fix it before going to public. Instead stimulus for
curiosity this is a killer of curiosity like any other religion and
instead bringing on the human bein for to br synchronized with natural
evolution this ideology is driving them to “more and more away off the bean”. I
can’t explain it here. Let’s see what you said:
“… embrace science literacy and what value that can
have in your life…”
Science is the new sacerdote interpreting the real world for
kids. Better than those of “magical thinking” still it is a very limited and
reduced thinking then we can not teach our theories as scientific statements,
like you said “…how you go from organic molecules to self-replicating life”.
This is not scientific fact, it is theory, there are lots of rational
possibilities for emergence of primordial cells systems, I have found one: my
theoretical models of building blocks of atomic and astronomical systems has
the same configuration and functionality of a base-pair of nucleotides,
living cells systems and till the configuration of human brains. Since that
those building blocks are systems and not organic molecules, life has no origins
here, it is not different from our ancestrals till the Big Bang and beyond it,
inserting a very different world view into the mind of human beings. What will
be an adult a teenage believing that parents are merelly descendants of
monkeys? But while neurology does not explain the interaction between synapses
and thoughts nobody can say scientifically that humans are resumed to monkeys.
This is theory. What will be a teenage believing that is merelly product of
stars dust and big bangs? My models tells a different history keeping the mind
opened for a more proudness ancestry and humans more concerned about the whole
Humanity, I have merelly a theory, but, as I can’t do it with yours theory, you
also can not destroy my theory because you have no scientific data for it. The
series Cosmos could be beautiful and a great initiative, an heroic act, if it
could drive the public to be open mind. Not only humble as you said, because
humbly leads creatures to be like preys and unhappy. See my model of “The Human
Cosmic Code” and unterstand what I am saying.
And yours suggestion to NASA is not all mentally healthier
correct also. Physics and Maths has developed tools that are extensions of
human’s brain sensors for studying the invisible micro and macro dimensions, then,
have connected these sensors to a electric-mechanical brain. The computers are
furnishing the informations of these dimensions and by simulations, are
building our world view. But as any different observer other than the
biological brain with its own sensors will select data that fits its level of
perception and descrimating all data outide it. So our scientists are like
microbes living inside cells inside the skeleton of a human body grasping only
the mechanical natural laws and projecting these mechanical laws towards the
coverture of soft meat and mind. The result is this mechanbical world
view. I applied a different method, the reverse one, starting from
biological systems and projecting these laws over the skeleton, the structure
of Cosmos, and the results are suggesting processes, mechanisms, out there,
that scientists are not grasping. Ot is thery against theory,
different investigative methods, but equally rationals. Yours goal must be
teaching all controversies, all theorys, for not closing and killing our
evolution.
What do you propose? Anyone with a TV and antenna will be able
to watch this show. What better way to get the word of science to the masses.
Tyson, by his own admission, was as close-minded as you. For 3 Seconds!
Minha resposta:
Anyone that is an evangelist believing on humans theories about
the Universe is not 3 seconds closed mind, but 1 second, in relation to
cosmological time, even that he/she lives all life doing it. I hope that Neil
be careful and makes the very distinction between theories and real scientific
facts.
- See more at:
http://theuniversalmatrix.com/pt-br/artigos/?paged=3#sthash.74vkrg8t.dpuf
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Comentario Geral:
Tyson is a magical thinker, sorry. Science to the public, yes,
but, not associated with mysticism, graphic arts and computer simulations.
There are two evidences for an initial big explosion and lots of evidences that
the human body came from monkeys, but many more evidences for others non
magical theories. See Matrix/DNA Theory, for instance: Nature applies
nanotechnology for instance resuming an adult human into a microscopic genome
and from it developing a baby. Then, before the origins of this Universe, there
was a big natural and conscious systems, which was resumed into a microscopic
genome. As a human body has its initial moment of origins by a big explosion of
chromosoma envelope at the center of the egg liberating the genome, that’s the
origins of this Universe. As any human body takes 7 or 8 months for getting
conscious, the baby of that extra-system took 13,7 billion years for getting
conscious.
Comparative anatomy between living and non-living systems
discovered the link between Cosmological Evolution and Biological Evolution. It
is the building block of atoms and galaxies and its configuration/functionality
is the same of a base-pair of nucleotides, the building blocks of DNA. So, DNA
is merely the biological shape of a universal genome called Matrix and this
Universe is a kind of egg where is occurring a process of genetic reproduction.
The first shape of this genome at the Big Bang was light waves, which shows a
sequence of frequencies and vibrations that is the same sequence of any life’s
cycles changing the shapes of biological creatures. Light has the code for
life. Now, I challenge Tyson to debunk this theory with proved known scientific
facts. If you tells the Universal History based upon a Cosmic Calendar
and talks about 13, 699 billions years in 20 minutes and after that, you need
years for talking about the last 10 minutes, it means that you does not know
anything about those 13, 6 billions years. At that past time, all forces
producing the complexity we see here and now were producing something in the
Universe. Where are them? The models of Matrix/DNA Theory are suggesting what
they did. Magical creative accidents is an absurd belief.
Postado e publicado em:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/oklahoma-fox-station-cuts-evolution-segment-cosmos-article-1.1720481?comment=true
Toddman Jason - 1 day ago
Not half as absurd as this garbage you're spouting.
Louis Morelli - Monday, march, 17
To Toddman: Why not mentioning real proved facts as fopundations
for yours personal opinion? let's begining with yours tiny microscopic atom or
something else that exploded and created this Universe...!!! The 28 down rating
for this posts, with no mention to real facts shows how is working this modern
doctrine.
American Avenger1 day ago
I liked the original Cosmos series much better. The original Cosmos had much
better music and Sagan's voice is special. That said....Sagan was still a
Godless biased Liberal who would not even admit that the existence of God was a
possibility.
Louis Morelli
Yours comment was hidden due to low rating. See how works the
modern academic doctrine. You are getting the right reaction to yoers says:
"those who does not admit the existence of ( my kind of believed...) God
is a Godless bisaed liberal" This is an affirmation coming from another
doctrine. Why not forgetting ours doctrine and attaining to the facts brought
by Tyson?
Joe17 hours ago
I thought the calendar/history of the universe thing was very good, put a lot
into perspective. But most of the program wasn't scientific enough, too
simple....maybe they're starting out slowly and waiting to gain an audience
then will go deeper into the science, hope so.
Dead Orc Map17 hours ago
I agree Joe, but both my kids loved it and they want more, so it must have hit
the mark!
Louis to Dead Orc -
Did yours kid accepting that a tiny microscopic atom full of
energy was the first cause generator of this Universe? That the monkeys' brain
as known today was able to produce consciousness? There are no scientific
proved facts for believing on that. You have the right to educate yours kids as
you want, but, when you come to public saying what yoy are doing, I have the
right to say what I am doing to my kids: "This is not proved, these are
merelly hypothesis, this is a science-stopper,does not believe in it, keep
yours mind opened for to be stimulated to continuing a non-biased search about
these issues..."
Complex Being12 hours ago
Why do atheists claim to be logical when THEY not science, arrived at "The
existence of God is unlikely"? Today's atheists are like children. They
want to pack a powerful punch and leave you angry, speechless, or they just
want you to troll them back to feed their childish fantasy. They are becoming
more aggressive as well.
Louis
Yes, you are right. Atheists and deists are the two sides of the
same non rational coin. The whole thing in this Universe is pointing out a
rational naturalistic theory that here is occurring a normal process of genetic
reproduction, and this theory drives us to draw a model of what's behind the
Big Bang and beyond the Universe: a natural and conscious system. No magical
gods and no magical randomness... welcome to the agnostic world.
Primewonk21 hours ago
Oh man, the creotards are not going to be happy with tonight's episode.
I wonder if the Fox station in Oklahoma City will "accidentally" delete any reference to evolution from tonight's episode of Cosmos like they did last week?
I wonder if the Fox station in Oklahoma City will "accidentally" delete any reference to evolution from tonight's episode of Cosmos like they did last week?
Louis
And those like you that loved the episode will not going to be
happy when all kids will be indoctrinated by Tyson's world view. There are
hidden natural forces responsible by universal evolution, but the way that
Tyson is interpreting evolution is a closer-mind and science-stopper, avoiding
that we go on the right track. Why not be honest and advising when he is
showing a real scientific fact and when is showing merelly a hypothesis or
theory?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/03/08/fox-cosmos-series-with-neil-degrasse-tyson/6059985/
- See more at:
http://theuniversalmatrix.com/pt-br/artigos/#sthash.2hUpHaZa.dpuf
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Interessante
artigo que copio para analizar aqui:
Will ‘Cosmos’ Miss the Big
Bang in Science Communications?
Meu
comentario postado aqui ( não publicado ainda, aguardando moderação):
Louis Morelli:
If you take LUCA (the last universal common ancestor of all
living beings)out from Earth and put it in the sky, you can getting the whole
diversity of lifeforms at Earth. And the most recent data are suggesting that
the building blocks for life came from the external space. But, there is no
scientific answer for the origins of LUCA in the sky. It is theory saying that
life came from non-organic matter as it is theory saying that there is a God
creator. Same thing for what's caused the Big Bang. So,if Tyson explain this
real problem instead talking theory as scientific statement, he would earn two
points: 1)avoiding hurting the feelings of most populations that still believes
in other theories, spreading the seed of doubt and slowing btinging these people
for loving science; 2) avoiding that his show works as a cience-stopper,
producing closed minds around a fake final answer, since that doubt is more
stimulus for searching. See for instance what happens when we theoretically put
LUCA in the sky, how the mechanisms and understanding of evolution is changed,
as did Matrix/DNA Theory.
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2 * Episodio:
Neil deGrasse Tyson Addresses Creationists' Evolution Fears in 'Cosmos'
Neil deGrasse Tyson Addresses Creationists' Evolution Fears in 'Cosmos'
http://news.yahoo.com/neil-degrasse-tyson-addresses-creationists-evolution-fears-cosmos-153459986.html;_ylt=AwrBTz6LYSdTIwQA_uZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0ZmI3dW1hBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDM0OF8x
By Danielle Wiener-Bronner and Abby Ohlheiser - Monday, March, 17
By Danielle Wiener-Bronner and Abby Ohlheiser - Monday, March, 17
Meu comentario postado:
Tyson should not be affirmative about topics that Science has no
proved facts and enough data for. The environment is the agent making natural
selection? Prove that any reptile or sea creature developed by itself the
apparatus for pregnancy and the environment selected it. It makes no sense.
Prove that the first hominides have bodies more strong and healthier at the
wild than monkeys for to being selected. Prove that a non-organic molecule
was selected by the enviroment among all non-organic molecules... But, every
problem for understanding evolution is solved when we know the universal formula
for natural systems as suggested by Matrix/DNA Theory. It's not the terrestrial
environment alone, it is not the self wish of creatures alone, it's not
the 3 variables (VSI) suggested by Darwinian view of evolution alone. The
causes are very pretty more and more complex than Tyson thinks as suggested by
models of Matrix/DNA. Why are there such formidable diversification of
life forms? If known data is suggesting that there was a unique common
ancestor for all of them? The crude primordial environment had no such
equal diversity were each new shape should be due to a specific kind of niche.
But, when Matrix/DNA takes out the common ancestor from Earth's surface and
locates it in the whole galaxy, as a thermodynamic systems ruling under the
thermodynamic forces of entropy causing fragmentation of that celestial closed
system, into infinite diversified fragments, and shows how each fragment is
restaured biologically at earth surface, the diversity of life is enough
explained. The problem with matrix/DNA Theory that Tyson's ideology does not
appreciates is that this world view is pointing out to an external ex-machine
conscious system as generator, and it lieaves an opened door to those educated
by religious theories.
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Publicação
no facebook hoje: (17 março):
Inconformado!
Ninguem é obrigado a gostar de um assunto que eu aprecio, mas não consigo
entender como seres humanos conseguem viver ignorando este assunto! Todos os
animais ignoram ele, mas humanos... já deviam estarem um pouco mais evoluidos!
O assunto no meio intelectual-filosófico hoje na imprensa e Internet é a serie
Cosmos, que qualquer um pode assistir no canal http://www.cosmosontv.com/
e a briga que isto levanta entre religiosos e não-religiosos. O efeito que o episodio de ontem, domingo a noite, provocou na mente de milhões de espectadores, principalmente crianças e jovens... a ira que provocou nos religiosos, principalmente pastores, sacerdotes, etc. A excelente fonte de informações sobre assuntos dos quais temos sido curiosos porem não tinhamos as informações certas, por exemplo, a origem e evolução do olho. A preocupante doutrina do apresentador falando de hipoteses e teorias como se já fossem fatos e comprovados cientificamente... E eu perdendo uma grande oportunidade para divulgar meu trabalho, pois poderia entrar nos milhares de debates que estão ocorrendo agora com uma teoria que ninguem conhece, enriquecendo os debates e portanto, as escolhas da Humanidade sobre qual caminho trilhar em seu futuro. Mas me falta um bom tradutor ao lado corrigindo meus textos, falta alguem levantando os sites onde a noticia foi divulgada e postando meus comentarios. isso aumentaria os já 300 mil hits por m6es que meu website está alcançando e daí, até pensar em aproveitar isso financeiramente para sustentar estes trabalhos. Mas não aparece uma unica alma disposta a investir o tempo que esta desperdiçando para me ajudar nesta causa. Até a Ucrania, a Turquia, etc., estão visitando mais meu website do que o Brazil, apesar da dificuldade de idoma que eles tem. Como disse de Gaulle: "brasileiros não são para serem levados a sério, ainda..." Triste, mas estes fatos comprovam a verdade.
e a briga que isto levanta entre religiosos e não-religiosos. O efeito que o episodio de ontem, domingo a noite, provocou na mente de milhões de espectadores, principalmente crianças e jovens... a ira que provocou nos religiosos, principalmente pastores, sacerdotes, etc. A excelente fonte de informações sobre assuntos dos quais temos sido curiosos porem não tinhamos as informações certas, por exemplo, a origem e evolução do olho. A preocupante doutrina do apresentador falando de hipoteses e teorias como se já fossem fatos e comprovados cientificamente... E eu perdendo uma grande oportunidade para divulgar meu trabalho, pois poderia entrar nos milhares de debates que estão ocorrendo agora com uma teoria que ninguem conhece, enriquecendo os debates e portanto, as escolhas da Humanidade sobre qual caminho trilhar em seu futuro. Mas me falta um bom tradutor ao lado corrigindo meus textos, falta alguem levantando os sites onde a noticia foi divulgada e postando meus comentarios. isso aumentaria os já 300 mil hits por m6es que meu website está alcançando e daí, até pensar em aproveitar isso financeiramente para sustentar estes trabalhos. Mas não aparece uma unica alma disposta a investir o tempo que esta desperdiçando para me ajudar nesta causa. Até a Ucrania, a Turquia, etc., estão visitando mais meu website do que o Brazil, apesar da dificuldade de idoma que eles tem. Como disse de Gaulle: "brasileiros não são para serem levados a sério, ainda..." Triste, mas estes fatos comprovam a verdade.
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Episode 3
‘Cosmos: A
Spacetime Odyssey’ Episode 3 Synopsis: Newton, Halley, Gravity, and Comets
Ensaio para meu comentario:
Newton's view of Solar System is the same situation if you try
to understand a terrorist from Afganistan only in economicus bases, whithout
knowing the influence of religion. Newton's calculations are based upon the
visible details of astronomical bodies ( mass, movements, position, etc)
without knowing the invisible forces that connects those bodies and causes the
movements (the religion of the sky). Then, his calculations got right some
results, like you can get right some results from the terrorist, because his
actions are related to economy also.
The reason that astronomical bodies are self-atracted and gets
the composition of systems is that those bodies obeys the same force of life's
cycle that our bodies obeys. And the life's cycle force comes from the division
of primordial light waves into different frequencies, vibrations. The life's
cycle force transforms a unique biological body into several different shapes (
blastula, fetus, embryo, teenager, adult, etc.), and transforms an astronomical
unique body into several different quantities ( mass, size, etc.).
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Cosmos Wars, Episode III: Revenge
of the Silliness
http://ncse.com/blog/2014/03/cosmos-wars-episode-iii-revenge-silliness-0015469 - ( veja meu comentario acima, no inicio, que foi publicado beste artigo
da NSCE. )
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Louis Charles Morelli commented
on this article. March, 26,
Tyson is destroying an ancient
mystical world view with another modern mystical world view. Replacing religion
by religion. What is the advantage? If you say that have answers for those
fundamental questions you are doing a bad service to Science. Like any other
religion the disciples stops making questions. You have provided it.
There is a naturalist and rational
explanation for the existence of this Universe, life and consciousness, which
does not appeal to imaginative constructions never saw here, as does the
Tyson's world view. And this new explanation, called "The Universal
Matrix/DNA Formula of All Natural Systems and Life's Cycles", is not
offensive to those that needs to keep hopeful of afterlife and gods in the sky,
because it leaves the door to those fundamental existential questions, opened
to human imagination. Opened to scientific inquiry. That's what we need now.
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Posts e outros enquanto o wevsite
was down. Passar tudo para website quando voltar
ao normal.
http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2014/03/25/3418425/creationism-is-getting-a-lot-of-time-on-cosmos/
It is so simple. God
created the heavens and earth. He is the beginning and the end. How he done
this no one can really prove through science or the bible.
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Neither
God can prove that he created because I was searching the registers of patents
in Washington and I am telling you, nobody patented the Universe...
http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2014/03/25/3418425/creationism-is-getting-a-lot-of-time-on-cosmos/
Find the Middle Way.
Creationists are ignorant. Evidence indicates the original Hebrew creation scenario is scientifically accurate when you consider that God is very large and operates on a Large Timescale. For these Bible thumpers to claim the Earth is only a few thousand years old is ludicrous. Their position is counterproductive to the possibility for humans to acknowledge the involvement of a Higher Authority in physical creation and evolutionary process.
On the other hand, scientists are arrogant fools. Current scientific knowledge of physical reality is corrupt and based on imaginary, hypothetical and fictitious principles spun and twisted into pseudo reality with higher mathematics (Figures don't lie but liars figure). Current human knowledge of biological process is impressive. Humans are beginning to understand molecular biology and genetics. Considering humans are on the threshold of understanding, manipulating, and modifying biological systems on their own, how can they be so arrogant and not consider that God already does this? Take a closer look at the DNA. Five elements used to make a nucleic acid that determines how an organism will grow and what it will become. Perhaps only an accident of chemical processes from chaos but not likely. Evidence of Intelligent Design.
Creationists are ignorant. Evidence indicates the original Hebrew creation scenario is scientifically accurate when you consider that God is very large and operates on a Large Timescale. For these Bible thumpers to claim the Earth is only a few thousand years old is ludicrous. Their position is counterproductive to the possibility for humans to acknowledge the involvement of a Higher Authority in physical creation and evolutionary process.
On the other hand, scientists are arrogant fools. Current scientific knowledge of physical reality is corrupt and based on imaginary, hypothetical and fictitious principles spun and twisted into pseudo reality with higher mathematics (Figures don't lie but liars figure). Current human knowledge of biological process is impressive. Humans are beginning to understand molecular biology and genetics. Considering humans are on the threshold of understanding, manipulating, and modifying biological systems on their own, how can they be so arrogant and not consider that God already does this? Take a closer look at the DNA. Five elements used to make a nucleic acid that determines how an organism will grow and what it will become. Perhaps only an accident of chemical processes from chaos but not likely. Evidence of Intelligent Design.
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Yes,...
but never nobody saw a DNA appearing by magics. By while magics exists only in
human imagination. Then, why not standing with the most rational? There was/is
a natural system before and beyond this natural Universe that can, genetically,
transmit its genetic code that - like the spermatozoon ay the center of an
ovule - explodes in Big Bangs generating cosmic egg called universe(s) . We
have found that the building block of biological DNA is merelly an improved
reproduction of the building blocks of galaxies, which came from the
configuration of atoms and finally, from waves of light, the primordial
Matrix.. This is a normal genetic process, but, then, God is sooooo natural
like we are ( See the models at Matrix/DNA Theory).
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assim: "American television audiences seem
more interested in competitive
"Prove it, through lab experiments! " A problem
here with this branch of science is that the experiments are being done, in
places such as CERN, but the results are so bloody complicated and difficult to
understand that the media, which has of late been stripped of most real science
reporters, resort to ridiculous phrases such as the "God particle."
So I would say that lab experiments do offer support for the ideas of
astrophysics--it's just that few people can understand them in a substantive
way. I certainly can't. Have you ever read a real particle physics papers? I
can't get one sentence in before going, "Huh?" :)
Minha resposta ao
autor:
"lab experiments do offer
support for the ideas of astrophysics.... I can't get one sentence..."
The problem with those lab
experiments is that the final Universe they are getting is a Universe that has
nothing to see with the Universe that we see here and now, producing the
biological organization of matter, life, consciousness, etc. The Cern is
proving the Standard Model, which is about the mechanic skeleton of this
Universe, like some bacterias internal to the skeleton of our bodies could make
a theory about the bone skeleton, but it should be far away from the
description of a human being.
Yes, I try to read those papers
searching something related to my theory but look this: "... the Higgs
boson makes the vacuum expectation value of H the spinor (0, v). The generators
for rotations about the x, y, and z axes are by half the Pauli matrices σx, σy,
and σz, so that a rotation of angle θ about the z-axis takes the vacuum
to..." How we, humble mortals can follow their specialized knowledge on
that field?
Reading those paper I can grasp what
matters to my theory, like this phrase: " The part of the gauge field in
this direction stays massless, and amounts to the physical photon..."
Since that my models are suggesting that light waves emitted at the Big Bang
had encrypted in it the process of life's cycle that imprinted movement on
inertial mass towards the creations of systems, from atoms to galaxies to human
beings, and light is resumed to photons, I think that just this massless part
worked as a Matrix with informations that tunneled the skeleton for the soft
meat, or life, and finally, the complex brain producing consciousness. Like
inside of our skeleton there are flows of subtle substances and nervous signals
producing biological properties that those bacterias can not perceive, inside
the skeleton know by astrophysics are flowing subtitles flows that give to
galaxies primordial biological properties, and the experts can not grasp it.
If so, a Theory of the Universe ( and
not a theory of everything because it is impossible) need the participation of
biologists, neurologists. If we leave it only for Physics and Math, we get
absurd theories like these announced by creationists and by materialists like
Tyson, Krauss, etc.
Sobre Cosmos Episode 4
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New methods are suggesting that natural light waves have hidden
complexity that was never grasped by current scientific method and not
mentioned by any religion. Like the strong indication that natural light waves
have the code for developing life as we know it. Any interpretation of the
world based on human knowledge is lost time and a inquirer stopper if one
belief that it knows the thru.
I will mention a sample about the complexity of light waves:
If you are an adult today, can you see yours past shapes, as teenager, child, baby? No, but these shapes are still alive and registered at yours DNA. So, if you could watch yours DNA, you should see all yours shapes at same time. That's what the Tyson's team and methods are seeing when watching the natural waves of light flowing through the Universe. Because the first light waves emitted by at the Big Bang is a Universal DNA, called "The Matrix/DNA". If you see the graphic of the model of electromagnetic spectrum of light waves elaborated by Matrix/DNA Theory, you will understand that those variations of vibrations/frequencies/colors seen at light waves is the first primordial cause that imprints the life's cycle process on inertial matter. And Tyson does not know it. Tyson does not knows that age of something natural is a relativistic question, it is dependable of the intentions/knowledge of the observer.
Yours own age today is accounted beginning at yours birth or when began yours adult shape?
Post complementando o de cima:
I will mention a sample about the complexity of light waves:
If you are an adult today, can you see yours past shapes, as teenager, child, baby? No, but these shapes are still alive and registered at yours DNA. So, if you could watch yours DNA, you should see all yours shapes at same time. That's what the Tyson's team and methods are seeing when watching the natural waves of light flowing through the Universe. Because the first light waves emitted by at the Big Bang is a Universal DNA, called "The Matrix/DNA". If you see the graphic of the model of electromagnetic spectrum of light waves elaborated by Matrix/DNA Theory, you will understand that those variations of vibrations/frequencies/colors seen at light waves is the first primordial cause that imprints the life's cycle process on inertial matter. And Tyson does not know it. Tyson does not knows that age of something natural is a relativistic question, it is dependable of the intentions/knowledge of the observer.
Yours own age today is accounted beginning at yours birth or when began yours adult shape?
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12 Fans
This show is a great job but it is coming infected by a virus.
Instead stimulating the practice of Science, it will work as a science-stopper.
Is the virus that spreads the another side of the same coin, religions. Tyson
is doing good when calling people for Sciences, but is doing bad when telling
theories as scientific proved facts, like this one: "There was the Big
Bang, which was produced by a microscopic atom with high energy..." The
smaller atom is not a scientific proved fact, so, one can not talking about
what is a scientific theory ( the Big Bang) using it as supporter for an
speculative hypothesis. It works like any other religion where the sacerdotes
have the final answers and the disciples are stimulated to stop the search for
answers.
The sky of Tyson is full of ghosts, like any other religion: the invisible cannibal black holes, the gravity watchmaker, the magical initial smallest atom, the monkeys brain able to create consciousness, the blind agent of evolution, etc. And his friends adds more ghosts: Krauss believing on "something from nothing"; Dawkins believing on genes as personalities with future intentions, Hawking believing that natural systems could reach extreme singularity, the absurdities that is coming from quantum theories. I think these people have lost the control of their minds, like any other fundamentalist religious.
They need go back to the real scientific great cause as dreamed by the founder fathers, the Illuminists, Sir Francis Bacon, etc.
The sky of Tyson is full of ghosts, like any other religion: the invisible cannibal black holes, the gravity watchmaker, the magical initial smallest atom, the monkeys brain able to create consciousness, the blind agent of evolution, etc. And his friends adds more ghosts: Krauss believing on "something from nothing"; Dawkins believing on genes as personalities with future intentions, Hawking believing that natural systems could reach extreme singularity, the absurdities that is coming from quantum theories. I think these people have lost the control of their minds, like any other fundamentalist religious.
They need go back to the real scientific great cause as dreamed by the founder fathers, the Illuminists, Sir Francis Bacon, etc.
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Sure, except that you don't understand a thing about the science
or scientists you rail against.
How do I know that you ask. Lawrence Krauss. You never read his work which you make abundantly clear in you statement regarding his 'beliefs'.
How do I know that you ask. Lawrence Krauss. You never read his work which you make abundantly clear in you statement regarding his 'beliefs'.
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That's the problem I am pointing out and you are repeating the
errors of Tyson: the focus is not the knowledge about scientists or scientific
used method today or creationists. The focus must be resumed on Nature. Real
world, real nature, proved real facts.
Same way that you are precipitated and making mistakes saying that I never read Krauss without knowing me, you are expressing precipitated mistakes about the real Nature, because you lost the mental faculty for thinking about the real world. Leave out the air conditioning, yours artificial lab and yours virtual traditional culture, come here at the Amazon jungle, you will wake up for the real Nature. How the Higgs field gets from quantum vibrations the force for furnishing mass to photons?!
Same way that you are precipitated and making mistakes saying that I never read Krauss without knowing me, you are expressing precipitated mistakes about the real Nature, because you lost the mental faculty for thinking about the real world. Leave out the air conditioning, yours artificial lab and yours virtual traditional culture, come here at the Amazon jungle, you will wake up for the real Nature. How the Higgs field gets from quantum vibrations the force for furnishing mass to photons?!
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SUPER USER·229 Fans·Always remember to tip your ninja.
I absolutely love this show and Dr. Tyson - I think he has
completely refreshed the original Carl Sagan version (still love Sagan!). Also,
it brings to light the fact that we are very new to the universe, we are very,
very small and the possibilities are endless in space.
All that being said, people believe in creationism, deities and religion for a variety of reasons, the main being that it makes them feel [insert emotion here]. Whether they feel protected, connected, saved, happy, whatever it is - it works for them and that's really all that matters. But science and the discovery of things beyond what we have "known" cannot be discounted. Science, math and discoveries about our world and being have made things today possible and will continue to in the future. People can equate discovery to a "God", but then you are really trying to push your religious beliefs on others and that's not cool ;)
All that being said, people believe in creationism, deities and religion for a variety of reasons, the main being that it makes them feel [insert emotion here]. Whether they feel protected, connected, saved, happy, whatever it is - it works for them and that's really all that matters. But science and the discovery of things beyond what we have "known" cannot be discounted. Science, math and discoveries about our world and being have made things today possible and will continue to in the future. People can equate discovery to a "God", but then you are really trying to push your religious beliefs on others and that's not cool ;)
12 Fans
Yes, but it seems you have not noticed the prejudices for human
kind hidden in the show. It pretends to furnishes ultimate answers which makes
people feel very bad. What's a human believing that the Universe was created by
chance at a big explosion of an small atom, that inside the invisibles galaxies
nucleus there are cannibal monsters that one day will destroy everything we are
building now, and that our state of consciousness came from ape's brains? But,
neurology does not know how neurons are related to thoughts. Nature is showing
here that it creates very complexes universes like human bodies starting from
tiny and smallest objects like spermatozoids. The big problem for scientific
inquiry is now to search what's were the informations hidden at that small atom
that produced this Universe. A spermatozoon is indication that before the new
complexity created there was a very complex system ( the human species). So,
which was the very complex ex-machine system?!
But if one believes on magical randomness, magical blind forces as watchmakers, magical nothing producing something...and spreads his/her beliefs through schools he/she is doing a disservice to human kind, like any other religion. The show stimulates the change from "imaginative fantasies" by "drugs' produced fantasies", since that this embryo of consciousness we are carrying inside our heads needs fantasies as any child.
But if one believes on magical randomness, magical blind forces as watchmakers, magical nothing producing something...and spreads his/her beliefs through schools he/she is doing a disservice to human kind, like any other religion. The show stimulates the change from "imaginative fantasies" by "drugs' produced fantasies", since that this embryo of consciousness we are carrying inside our heads needs fantasies as any child.
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Yet not ONE scientist can explain how the first cell or gene
developed and turned into living, breathing human beings with all their
connecting and functioning organs.
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SUPER USER·1,831 Fans·I'm too sexy for this T-shirt
ummmm, yes they can
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USER·622 Fans·Shine your light, but don't blind anyone.
I have no problem with
evolution and creation in harmonious co-existence. My God, the Creator, is
timeless. Assigning time to my God is a contradiction to my God's omnipresence.
The numbers in the Bible? The Bible is known for its figures of speech. In 6
days God created everything, and on the 7th day He rested. It could have been 6
hundred, 6 thousand, 6 million, 6 billion, etc. years. My God is above time and
space which validates His supreme and infinite omnipotence. Now, we can argue
till kingdom come, but God is and will always be.
The Matrix/DNA to ER USER: ( ver se foi
publicado)
Like "time" is not a force
neither a substance, merely a human invention for controlling the chronology of
those events from the long chain of causes and effects, gods are merely humans
inventions for predators controlling preys. Have you seen any god or time?!
Have you touch them?! Do you know someone that did it?!
If you keeps yours reasoning resumed to
the real world here and now, you gets natural and rational ultimates answers.
Like, "who or what created this Universe and how this Universe created
life?" Ask to Nature, not to scientists or creationists. And Nature will
show you that it created yours own body through a "big explosion of a
spermatozoid at the center of an ovule full of amnion and the explosion was
produced by the smallest thing called genome which had informations inserted by
an ex-machine, natural conscious and intelligent system which name is human
species". Now go to observe the Universe and see that this history can
explain everything contained inside this "universe". Why not
accepting the simple and humbly explanation of yours real cosmic mother?! Why,
instead it, you are building imaginative complexity and ghosts like time and
gods? Why Tyson is believing on initial magical atoms full of energy but empty
of informations?! That's not the way
Nature is working here and now and nobody saw Nature working as Tyson believes.
Go to see the world view of Matrix/DNA Theory, it is a calling back to yours
real roots
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Science studies the
natural world..that's why Creationism will never be a scientific theory because
it says something "super-natural created the universe...all science can do
is say "I don't know" if they can't find a natural explanation...so
Creationists should just relax and leave science to the scientists and stick to
religion
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"so Creationists should just relax and leave science to the
scientists and stick to religion"
And professors and public communicators of Science should stick to Science. If you try a never tried before scientific experience, taking LUCA ( the Last Universal Common Ancestor of all living beings) out from Earth's soups and surface, putting it as an astronomical model of the state of the world prior life's origins, like I did with Matrix/DNA Theory, the Darwinian theory and its mechanisms are changed, and so, the final meaning of our existence. If you try to interpret the Big Bang based on Nature's method applied here and now, you will get a different thing other than "the ex-machine small atom". Why there are no scientists doing things outside the box?! The academic world has became a new doctrine?
And professors and public communicators of Science should stick to Science. If you try a never tried before scientific experience, taking LUCA ( the Last Universal Common Ancestor of all living beings) out from Earth's soups and surface, putting it as an astronomical model of the state of the world prior life's origins, like I did with Matrix/DNA Theory, the Darwinian theory and its mechanisms are changed, and so, the final meaning of our existence. If you try to interpret the Big Bang based on Nature's method applied here and now, you will get a different thing other than "the ex-machine small atom". Why there are no scientists doing things outside the box?! The academic world has became a new doctrine?
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The atheist claims to have
such a mastery of all knowledge as to be able to
authoritively declare that in no corner of the vast universe of existance is it
possible that there is a being beyond his ability to measure, define and
catalogue.
To hold such a belief one must be deaf and blind to what is right in front of his face.
If the genetic code of the simplist possible life form were converted to a radio signal, and recieved by SETI -Search for ExtraTerrestial Intelligence, it would be hailed as irrefutable proof of an intelligent origin.
How loud does God have to shout for you to hear Him?
Nearly 200 years after Darwin, the idea that life simply arose by chance has become so ludicrously impossible to prove that "Science" now seriously proposes that it came from somewhere else, hopefully where the laws of chemistry and biology don't function as they do here.
No atheist baiting effort would be complete without a scripture qoute ( makes them foam at the mouth) so;
"22:Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23: And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." Romans 1:22-23
To hold such a belief one must be deaf and blind to what is right in front of his face.
If the genetic code of the simplist possible life form were converted to a radio signal, and recieved by SETI -Search for ExtraTerrestial Intelligence, it would be hailed as irrefutable proof of an intelligent origin.
How loud does God have to shout for you to hear Him?
Nearly 200 years after Darwin, the idea that life simply arose by chance has become so ludicrously impossible to prove that "Science" now seriously proposes that it came from somewhere else, hopefully where the laws of chemistry and biology don't function as they do here.
No atheist baiting effort would be complete without a scripture qoute ( makes them foam at the mouth) so;
"22:Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23: And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." Romans 1:22-23
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"If the genetic code of the simplest possible life form
were converted to a radio signal, and received by SETI -Search for
ExtraTerrestial Intelligence, it would be hailed as irrefutable proof of an
intelligent origin."
Nope. If the genetic code transmitted by a giraffe were converted to a radio signal it would not transform the giraffe into an intelligent being. That's what we did at Matrix/DNA Theory: supposing that the genetic code came from a real hidden natural system, what should be its model, anatomy, structure? There is a method for investigating it: comparative anatomy between all known natural systems, from atoms to galaxies to cell's systems, etc. The final result we got is a theoretical model where there is no genetic code, DNA is merely a pile of copies with mutations from an original natural non-intelligent system: the building block of atoms and galaxies, called "The Matrix/DNA". But, since that this natural formula goes beyond the Universe's limits, we don't know the first source, if it is intelligent or not.
If yours god created this world with cannibal monsters like black holes and lions, scorpions, snakes, yours god is corrupted, by my moral standard.
Nope. If the genetic code transmitted by a giraffe were converted to a radio signal it would not transform the giraffe into an intelligent being. That's what we did at Matrix/DNA Theory: supposing that the genetic code came from a real hidden natural system, what should be its model, anatomy, structure? There is a method for investigating it: comparative anatomy between all known natural systems, from atoms to galaxies to cell's systems, etc. The final result we got is a theoretical model where there is no genetic code, DNA is merely a pile of copies with mutations from an original natural non-intelligent system: the building block of atoms and galaxies, called "The Matrix/DNA". But, since that this natural formula goes beyond the Universe's limits, we don't know the first source, if it is intelligent or not.
If yours god created this world with cannibal monsters like black holes and lions, scorpions, snakes, yours god is corrupted, by my moral standard.
SUPER USER·561 Fans·The Prince of Wassoon
"The atheist claims to
have such a mastery of all knowledge..."
As if your post is worth reading after opening with such an absurd straw-man.
Try HONESTY! You set an example for Christians with lies and fallacy. Basically... You are making everyone else look bad.
As if your post is worth reading after opening with such an absurd straw-man.
Try HONESTY! You set an example for Christians with lies and fallacy. Basically... You are making everyone else look bad.
12 Fans
That's what you get after saying "there was a big explosion
caused by a smaller atom full of energy that grew to the size of the
Universe..." This is a statement from a mastery of all knowledge. We will
not earn the fight against religious lies with another lies...
SUPER USER·561 Fans·The Prince of Wassoon
I'm not sure I understand...
We do have knowledge of the Big Bang happening. In fact, our understanding of it recently became a whole lot clearer after the Higgs-Boson discovery.
What happened before the Big Bang is unclear, so I'm pretty sure nobody here is claiming any "mastery of all knowledge". We have SOME knowledge... Not ALL knowledge.
We do have knowledge of the Big Bang happening. In fact, our understanding of it recently became a whole lot clearer after the Higgs-Boson discovery.
What happened before the Big Bang is unclear, so I'm pretty sure nobody here is claiming any "mastery of all knowledge". We have SOME knowledge... Not ALL knowledge.
12 Fans
The Higgs-Boson discovery reinforced the Standard Model Theory,
not proved the Big Bang interpretation of Universe's origins. Yours own body's
origins was caused by a big explosion of a spermatozoon inside an ovule, but
the interpretation is due to biological process, not a process interpreted by Physics
or Math. Why the Universe's origins should be interpreted different from what
it is doing here and now, if Nature is the same everywhere?!
What happened before yours own "big bang" you know it: there were a natural system, non-magical, conscious and intelligent, that never applied intelligence or other method than the genetic process for producing big bangs. This ex-machine system is called "human species". So, why do you have imagined a totally different producer of universes, like a small atom...?!
What happened before yours own "big bang" you know it: there were a natural system, non-magical, conscious and intelligent, that never applied intelligence or other method than the genetic process for producing big bangs. This ex-machine system is called "human species". So, why do you have imagined a totally different producer of universes, like a small atom...?!
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Fans
Does he also explain why
his ratings have dropped 60% since the first episode? He
ought to keep the religion trashing out of the show, it would be a lot better.
Saying creationism is impossible didn't add anything to the show, it's only a
distractor. This from a non-religious amateur astronomer who believes in the
science. His personal agenda has tainted the series already. That might help
explain the dive in the ratings.
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If I'm honest with myself I wasn't sure how I felt about Tyson's
mention of the 6,500 age of the earth belief. Yes It's always good to point out
the fallacy of that belief, but in a show about science I wonder if it should
be mentioned at all. I wonder if it should just be left as the side show that
it is.
But then I reminded myself that where I come from there is little to no science vs. religion debate, at least not in our politics and certainly not within our public school system, so I'm looking at it through a different lens. Then it saddened me that such a technologically advanced country such as America is forced to have this debate because of some medieval hold-outs among your population and leadership. To that end I applaud people like Tyson, Nye, Sam Harris and other America scientists who put themselves out there publicly to defend against this nonsense.
But then I reminded myself that where I come from there is little to no science vs. religion debate, at least not in our politics and certainly not within our public school system, so I'm looking at it through a different lens. Then it saddened me that such a technologically advanced country such as America is forced to have this debate because of some medieval hold-outs among your population and leadership. To that end I applaud people like Tyson, Nye, Sam Harris and other America scientists who put themselves out there publicly to defend against this nonsense.
12 Fans
Are you honest when not mentioning the another non-scientific
talks of Tyson, like "there was a big explosion caused by a smaller atom
that expanded to the size of the Universe..."? Or when you not mention the
Tyson talks that we came from apes without showing the Neurology discipline
explaining how neurons are related to thoughts and consciousness?
I believe that you are honest, the problem is that you are blind due a established doctrine upon yours country by some contemporary holds-out among your population and leadership. Religions have different faces...
I believe that you are honest, the problem is that you are blind due a established doctrine upon yours country by some contemporary holds-out among your population and leadership. Religions have different faces...
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If you are an adult, yours past shape as child or teenager have
not disappeared totally: the informations that built those shapes are still
encrypted and alive into yours DNA, at the regions below the region related to
adult shape. At Matrix/DNA Theory we are discovering deep secrets hidden in
natural light waves, like those emitted at the Big Bang. Tyson, the scientific
community, and creationists, does not know that. The sequence of
frequencies/vibrations/colors of light waves spectrum are the same sequence of
shapes/functions of living bodies under the process of life's cycles. It means
that natural light emitted at the Big Bang had the code for creation of life
from the space's substance, as dark matter. It means that for understanding the
Universe is not enough the fields of Physics and Math, it needs the
participation of Biologists, Neurologists ( the image of the Universe 10
billions years ago is the image of the ancestral of the human brain today),
Chemistry, etc. We are discovering that above the astronomical bodies'
movements ruled by Newtonian Mechanics is a hidden coverture of biological
processes (then, relativism), suggesting that the whole is alive! So, the light
bringing the image of a distant star, calculated to be dead 10 billions years
does not means that the star does not exist anymore: it is registered and alive
in the cosmic light wave's code. So, there is past and future for humans as
observers, but not from the Universe and DNA's perspectives.
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"The sequence of frequencies/vibrations/colors of light
waves spectrum are the same sequence of shapes/functions of living bodies under
the process of life's cycles."
--Um...what? Can you provide a source for this? Like a review article or something.
"We are discovering that above the astronomical bodies' movements ruled by Newtonian Mechanics is a hidden coverture of biological processes (then, relativism), suggesting that the whole is alive!"
--Yeah...gonna need a source for that.
"So, the light bringing the image of a distant star, calculated to be dead 10 billions years does not means that the star does not exist anymore:"
--Depends on the type of star. Cosmologists are able to predict the lifespan of different stars. I don't know the exact details of this, I'm a layman in this area.
http://www.universetoday.com/25160/how-long-do-stars-last/
"So, there is past and future for humans as observers, but not from the Universe and DNA's perspectives"
--Huh??? What does DNA have to do with star light???
--Um...what? Can you provide a source for this? Like a review article or something.
"We are discovering that above the astronomical bodies' movements ruled by Newtonian Mechanics is a hidden coverture of biological processes (then, relativism), suggesting that the whole is alive!"
--Yeah...gonna need a source for that.
"So, the light bringing the image of a distant star, calculated to be dead 10 billions years does not means that the star does not exist anymore:"
--Depends on the type of star. Cosmologists are able to predict the lifespan of different stars. I don't know the exact details of this, I'm a layman in this area.
http://www.universetoday.com/25160/how-long-do-stars-last/
"So, there is past and future for humans as observers, but not from the Universe and DNA's perspectives"
--Huh??? What does DNA have to do with star light???
12 Fans
1) Review article? From the 21 century scientific academy? At
this time humans academic science was half-science because it was stopped at
the reductionist method and not applying the another half, the scientific
systemic method.But at the jungle were people separated from academy applying
the systemic method. Who could making peer-review of scientific papers about
natural phenomena should be Mother Nature and not a temporary state of human
sciences. Do you remember the medieval scientific academy making review of
articles from Copernicus, Galileo, Mendell, etc.? Which desastre! No, my friend,
my compromise is with Nature, no papers for these people.
2) What source do you have showing from the state of the world before life's origins that the biological organization of matter was not existing yet? That they falls to earth from "constructive accidents" caused by "magical randomness"? Both, you and me, have theories about sources, that's it.
3) No, they don't. They even doesn't know that astronomical bodies changes shapes, from planets to pulsars to quasars to stars, like yours body do it. They believe that these changes of yours body were invented by the stupid matter of this lost planet.
4) So, do you believe that DNA is a Earth's creation, it did not came from the Cosmos with its positive and negative lights? So, the stupid matter of this planet is more intelligent than Bill Gates for creating working programs? DNA is biological shape of a universal Matrix's formula, from atoms to galaxies.
2) What source do you have showing from the state of the world before life's origins that the biological organization of matter was not existing yet? That they falls to earth from "constructive accidents" caused by "magical randomness"? Both, you and me, have theories about sources, that's it.
3) No, they don't. They even doesn't know that astronomical bodies changes shapes, from planets to pulsars to quasars to stars, like yours body do it. They believe that these changes of yours body were invented by the stupid matter of this lost planet.
4) So, do you believe that DNA is a Earth's creation, it did not came from the Cosmos with its positive and negative lights? So, the stupid matter of this planet is more intelligent than Bill Gates for creating working programs? DNA is biological shape of a universal Matrix's formula, from atoms to galaxies.
SUPER USER·339 Fans·Composer
I have reviewed your original post and rebuttal and have
concluded that they are nothing but a collection of words loosely gathered to
form structures that nearly resemble actual sentences. If, as I suspect, the
intention was to create the illusion of scholarly prowess, I feel it necessary
to inform you that the attempt fell far short of the mark.
Another completely different possibility is that you are a chat-bot programmed to make forum posts of a random, vaguely scientific nature. If that is the case, then kudos to you and your maker. Entertaining indeed.
Another completely different possibility is that you are a chat-bot programmed to make forum posts of a random, vaguely scientific nature. If that is the case, then kudos to you and your maker. Entertaining indeed.
12 Fans
You don't have rational foundations for precipitated conclusions
about other different interpretations of natural phenomena than the one that
you learned at yours school. I have rational foundations for doing it about
yours interpretations because it took me 50 year reading yours world view and
everyday reading scientific papers produced by yours interpretation. For doing
the same about a world view that took 30 years for being elaborated and at
environments that you never knew, you need reading 10 years my world view. You
will have bad times when facing an alien which brain has a different hard-wired
structure than yours, if you continuing making these infantiles conclusions.
When facing this kind of situation, the right thing to do is "bring on
over table yours facts, real proved facts and yours calculations producing
yours theory". Like I am asking you: "Bring on over the table yours
real facts and/or evidences pointing towards an initial Big Bang and the
calculations for yours primeval atom..." I can do it just now for
explaining my different interpretation of the initial not-so big bang and the
formulas used for calculations that resulted on a primeval like-DNA . I am
waiting yours demonstrations...
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Science is based on two unwritten assumptions. One, that the
laws and processes we discover here on Earth apply throughout the universe. And
two, that the universe makes sense. If the Creationists are correct, then the
laws of physics and chemistry are meaningless, and the universe is nothing but
fun-house mirrors and illusions. They'll say that God created the universe with
all those scientific clues in place (fossils, radioactive decay, etc.). Well,
if that's possible, then the universe could also have been created last Tuesday
at 2 PM. With everything, including your memories, created in place. Neither
statement can be tested scientifically. Just from a personal standpoint, I
don't particularly like the idea of a deity who plays practical jokes on his
creations. I liked the first edition of Cosmos with Carl Sagan, and I'm
enjoying the current version.
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Louis Morelli (TheMatrixDNA) ( aguardando moderation)
My two cents here:
1) The laws and processes we know on Earth as a planet are not the laws and
processes we know on the biosphere at Earth's surface and human beings. So,
what laws from here applies to the Universe? It's clear that the planet laws
came from the ordered state of Nature observed as the Cosmos, while the
biosphere's laws and processes came from the chaotic state of Nature (
remember, biosphere is not yours ordered urban environment, it is the salvage
world of the jungle). The results of my personal investigation, resumed at The
Matrix/DNA Theory, is suggesting a different world view from materialists and
creationists. Materialists have the bad habit for making projections of
biosphere laws, like violence and savagery, upon the Cosmos, elaborating
theories of ghosts cannibals and predators black holes, explosion of
supernovas, creative explosion of universes... everything wrong, there is no
explosions and violence at the Cosmos. Creationists have the bad habit for
making projections of humans values, anthropomorphisms, over the Cosmos, as
gods thinking like humans, gods acting
over humans lifes, etc., everything wrong again: any human-like emotional being
should not create sons and daughters and animals for living in a designed a world
that permits torture, suffering, as we see at this biosphere.
2) The Universe makes sense as a reproductive genetic process of
the natural system that generated it (See Matrix/DNA explanations). No talking
and magical gods needed.
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Neil didnt take into account the acceleration of universe could
have taken place more than the speed of light or the speed of light may have
been faster than what we measure now... or for that matter when God created the
universe and made galaxies
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That's funny! Based on yours words, starting from now I will not
say, like "the embryo is expanding because it is growing inside the
womb", instead I will say "the acceleration of the embryo..."
I have a question: Which was the goal of God for creating millions of galaxies, billions of stars, trillions of planets, out there, if they were totally un useful for Adam and Eve, and are un useful for human beings, cats and dogs?!!! I know that for ancient people, God did it for the pleasure of humans' eyes, but I don't know the explanation of modern creationists. Is it not a waste of time? Don't you think that should be better if the sky, instead stars, contained Youtube videos for us watching? That's what should do an intelligent human engineer designer...
I have a question: Which was the goal of God for creating millions of galaxies, billions of stars, trillions of planets, out there, if they were totally un useful for Adam and Eve, and are un useful for human beings, cats and dogs?!!! I know that for ancient people, God did it for the pleasure of humans' eyes, but I don't know the explanation of modern creationists. Is it not a waste of time? Don't you think that should be better if the sky, instead stars, contained Youtube videos for us watching? That's what should do an intelligent human engineer designer...
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GRANDE DEFINIÇÃO:
Criacionista: "the creator became a
creation, took a form of man to save mankind in sentences that humans of any
generation can fathom and accept the salvation"
Resposta- -“Yeah, cause that makes sense. An
all powerful God needs to sacrifice Himself to Himself to save humans from
Himself.”
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http://www.christianpost.com/news/cosmos-host-attacks-young-earth-creationism-in-episode-117258/
Seems the writer of this article conveniently left out Tyson's explanation of the human eye that pretty much slams the "intelligent design" belief.
"Tyson tackles the design argument as it prevailed before Darwin, using the phrase “Intelligent Designer.” In focusing on the evolution of the eye, Tyson says, “In the beginning, life was blind.” The echo of Genesis is striking. The evidence that eyes evolved in water, and retain non-optimal features for out-of-water viewing. The eye is thus evidence for and not against evolution – it shows that nature is at work, and doesn't do what an intelligent designer would do, namely start over to create an optimal eye for land creatures."
Got the above quote from patheos
"Tyson tackles the design argument as it prevailed before Darwin, using the phrase “Intelligent Designer.” In focusing on the evolution of the eye, Tyson says, “In the beginning, life was blind.” The echo of Genesis is striking. The evidence that eyes evolved in water, and retain non-optimal features for out-of-water viewing. The eye is thus evidence for and not against evolution – it shows that nature is at work, and doesn't do what an intelligent designer would do, namely start over to create an optimal eye for land creatures."
Got the above quote from patheos
Parajournalism - The formula for developing eyes is disponible in the whole Cosmos and since its origins, accordingly to astronomical models of Matrix/DNA Theory. So, it is possible that the formula is ex-machine, but the same formula must be from natural and non supernatural source, and inserted into this Universe by genetic process, so, it did not need intelligence. There are problems for understanding evolution because the Darwinian Modern Synthesis is merely about biological evolution, forgetting that the roots of all life's properties came from Cosmological Evolution. Then, believing that the stupid matter of this lost planet invented things so complex like eyes leads to a materialist world view which the Cosmos does not authorize it.
There is no evidences for supernatural intelligent designer, but, there are lots of evidences that biological evolution is product of previous design, like occurs with any genetic reproductive process.
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EPISODIO 5
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Tyson says that light still have lots of secrets for us, like the secret code. He never minded what kind of secrets are hidden in light that I am discovering using a humble method: comparative anatomy among natural living and non-living systems, which has changed my our world view into what I am calling "The Matrix/DNA Theory". Some of these ( theoretical) discovers are:
1) Light has the code for imprinting life on inertial matter due the sequence of light waves' frequencies is the element that inserts the process of life's cycles to natural objects and organizes them into working systems;
2) Light is the ex-machine and primordial shape of the genetic code. Under evolutionary process this code has passed on atoms, galaxies, arriving here as the base-pair of nucleotides, the fundamental unit of information of biological DNA. To its universal presence, I called the code as "The Universal Matrix".
3) The action of light photons coming from stars like the sun over terrestrial matter was the ruler of abiogenesis, applying natural nanotechnology, copying the building blocks of atoms and astronomical systems as the first cell system;
5) The building blocks of astronomical systems are perfect closed systems and attacked by entropy they becomes biological opened systems. The knowledge of the Matrix/DNA formula for natural systems, pictured at my website, reveals the seven universal systemic functions, ans a new opened door to a super-science and technologies;
6) There were no origins of life and Universe, everything is product of transformation from a unique universal system coming before the Big Bang and obeying a unique chain of causes and effects, like we see at any genetic process of reproduction; Even galaxies has a hidden coverture of biological processes, which are the ancestors of life's properties.
7) The interactions of light and matter at atomic scale will be know by knowing the action of genome over amniotic liquid inside an ovule, because what happens here is merely evolution from what were happening at hidden dimensions of space/time.
Lots more surprising suggestions are coming from this method of investigation, there are hundreds of suggestions for new scientific experiments, that's what our students need just now for loving science and continuing the work.
See the theoretical graphic of eletrocmagnetic spetrum of light waves as the code for life e precursor of DNA, at http://theuniversalmatrixtheory.blogspot.com/2014/04/luz-natural-contendo-o-codigo-criador.html
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