terça-feira, 13 de maio de 2014
De onde virá a nova grande cientifica e tecnologica revolução? Veja debate com participação da Matrix/DNA Theory no Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceDiscussion/comments/25g528/what_are_the_areas_of_technological_and/
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TheMatrixDNA 1 ponto
Natural systems. Our scientific knowledge and the resulting modern technology is based on scientific reductionist method, while the other half of wisdom is the scientific systemic method, which has stopped 50 years ago. The reductionist method see natural objects and events as separated units, as they are "in locco"and a given moment, but every object is part of a system and the forces from the local system and others superior systems drives the formation and behaviors of any object. For instance, our science can not grasp the causes of traditional diseases, as cancer, diabetes, AIDs, etc. because the causes comes from the organism as a system and we does not know yet what is a real natural system. The Matrix/DNA Theory is the unique existent tentative trying to resuscitate the systemic method and introducing a theoretical formula of natural systems. The most important fact is that this systemic world view, unknown by the official scientific academy, is suggesting great possibilities for changing/improving medicine, mass production by automation, and a new moral code for building a better social system.
The study of natural system, that have humbles approaches by Fritjof Capra ( The Tao of Physics), Margullis ( the symbiotic theory), and the big job of Bertallanfy ( General System Theory), due never getting a real understanding of natural systems, was stopped and changed by computational systems, cybernetics, etc. Our current scientific method is merely seeing the mechanical motions in Nature, while is blind to its living motions. Only the systemic knowledge will change it, and so, our technology
segunda-feira, 12 de maio de 2014
Campos Magnéticos: Nova Tese da Matrix/DNA: Ancestrais dos Biológicos Cilios e Tentaculos, Configurador da Terra com Nucleo e Continentes à Imagem da Matrix/DNA Fórmula
( Capitulo aberto para Pesquisa sobre Campos magnéticos)
Lista de links:
1) Why Don’t Octopus Suckers Stick To Their Own Skin?
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-dont-octopus-suckers-stick-their-own-skin-180951465/#Dw8C2ATUk7xEjlgm.99
A posição e tamanho dos continentes terrestres são as mesmas posições e tamanhos de uma unidade fundamental de informação do DNA e as mesmas posições e tamanhos dos astros de um building block de sistemas astronômicos, porque tudo é derivado das posições das vibrações e frequências originadas por primordiais ondas de luz, que se tornaram linhas de forças eletro-magnéticas polarizadas, e a forma e modus operandi de todas estas estruturas estão resumidas na fórmula da Matrix/DNA.
Fantástico! Ninguem pode imaginar o quanto isto significa. Nós vamos dobrar ou triplicar o nosso conhecimento atual sobre o mundo natural, talvez já nos próximos dez anos.
Assistindo "Cosmos- A Spatial Odissey", Episódio 10, e vendo uma experiencia de Faraday, de repente me bateu nova intuição. Tomei de papel e canetas, desenhei o planeta tendo o núcleo à vista e os continentes. Imaginei porque um polo faz a função de positivo e o outro negativo e o porque das linhas eletromagnéticas... pensando na fórmula da Matrix/DNA. E somente agora descobri que se puser o polo sul em cima de F1, da fórmula, teremos a América do Sul em F2, a América Central em cima do cinturão de debrís por onde tem que passar F2, a América do Norte cai em cima de F3, o polo Norte em cima de F4, a Ásia em cima de F6, África em cima de F7... e até o restante da nebulosa de debrís se vê em baixo da Oceania.
!!!!!!
O que significa isso?!
Por enquanto, apenas tremenda coincidencia e minha culpa do porque não havia notado isto antes, pois pela lógica tinha que ser assim: a Terra é meramente mais uma parte do sistema, e toda parte é um fractal, uma cópia menor que mantem como esqueleto, como estrutura, a forma do sistema inteiro, portanto, a forma da Terra tinha que de alguma maneira lembrar a forma da fórmula do sistema universal.
Isto explica muito, já para iniciar, das diferenças psicológicas, estados e até diferença de cores entre os nativos de cada continente. Por exemplo, na Africa o povo é negro como é F7, e a Africa existe eternamente em decadencia como existe F7 na ponta da decadência pela entropia. As Américas estão no lugar de F2 ( baby) e F3 ( o jovem adolescente impetuoso) enquanto Europa é o adulto e pai jovem, por isso sua tendencia colonialista, paternal. Mas deixarei esta parte para pensar nela mais tarde.
O assunto me fêz notar algo: nunca me ocupei em estudar campos eletromagnéticos tendo como base a visão de mundo da Matrix/DNA. O que é na realidade um campo magnético? De onde e como surgiu o primeiro campo magnético? Qual o propósito da existência de campos magnéticos? Qual a substancia de um campo magnético? Qual a função sistêmica dos campos magéticos? Como foi a evolução universal do que entendemos hoje por campos magnéticos? Como a função que produz campo magnético o produziu no atomo, no sistema estelar e no sistema galáctico? Qual a forma visivel hoje nos sistemas biológicos the tem como ancestral os campos magnéticos dos sistemas não-vivos - ou, não-biológicos?
Este capitulo foi aberto para este estudo. E as primeiras descobertas já estão se revelando como algo fantástico, nunca imaginado antes. Vou por enquanto botando tudo aqui a êsmo, para que, um dia, se tempo houver, elaborar um texto ordenado contendo mais uma tese.
Então, se a Terra funciona como um magneto e até os continentes se ligam por linhas de força, como já acontecia com os building blocks astronômicos ( ali as linhas de fôrça são as setas do tempo entre as Funções), então... no DNA deve ter a mesma coisa, algo funcionando como electromagnetismo.
Desenhei isso no papel e faltou algo no centro da unidade de informação que é um par lateral de nucleotídeos, algo que corresponda ao núcleo ( ou ainda a F5). E aí surgiu uma possibilidade que não nem quero nem pensar por ora... o que está faltando ali, que se encaixaria no nível subliminar de ondas de luz e electromagnetismo, aponta para uma descrição... que já foi feita a 5.000 anos atras pelos antigos orientais: chakras!
Raios, isto esta ficando pesado demais para minha cabeça... vou dar um tempo, parar por aqui... por ora.. vou fazer a platéia rir e me chamarem de louco, postando os seguintes comentarios nos artigos com links abaixo:
I think that will have a great discovery about the Earth's magnetic field. The lines of force are not merely product of the nucleus and poles, but also from the continents. And while the Faraday's perception that the rotation of magnetic field could produces mechanical motion, the new discovery ahead will furnish to us the knowledge for getting total mechanic automatism, for production of all goods till integration between computers and robots.
I have observed just tonight ( when watching a Faraday's experiment) that the positions and sizes of continents obeys the configuration of the elements composing the universal formula for natural systems, called Matrix/DNA. Taking a Map Mundi and putting it over the formula, we see lots of fantastic suggestions: it explains the differences among the genetics, colors, culture, psychology and even the history of development of natives from each continent.
But, if this thesis is right, there are lots of complexity about those lines of force that we don't know yet. First of all, different "slices" of those lines have different properties, intensities, etc.
But, the most fantastic suggestion I am seeing now: this planet, alone, are going to be a new entire stellar system! The nucleus, a star, each continent, a new astronomical body...
The first generation of original galaxies happened by symbiosis, like happened the first generation of cells systems. Then, while the cells learned how to replicate themselves, astronomical systems learned it too. And now I think we can make a new theory for planets and stellar systems formation.Of, course, who does not know the Matrix/DNA formula will not understand one word here.
And more: the differences of slices of a spherical line of force are difference about vibrations and frequencies at the same sequence of the differences we see at any electromagnetic spectrum of a light wave.
And more: the Earth as a system is equal the system that Earth created, called "unit of information of the DNA" - which is a lateral pair of nucleotides. Poles North and South occupies the positions of sugars at the strands, the Americas occupies the position of guanine and cytosine while Europe/Asia and Africa occupies the positions of timine and alanine.
I know that if you supported reading this till now, you are laughing...like those scientists were laughing while Faraday talking about "invisible lines of force"... Faraday was right and maybe I am wrong. I need conditions for doing the experiments, as Faraday did it.
OOOppsss.... não postei o texto acima devido ter excedido o limite de palavras. Só postei o texto abaixo:
I think that will have a great discovery about the Earth's magnetic field ( if the theoretical models of Matrix/DNA Theory will be proved right). The lines of force are not merely product of the nucleus and poles, but also from the continents. The magnetic field have lots of complexity that we don't know yet. And while the Faraday's perception that the rotation of magnetic field could produces mechanical motion, the new discovery ahead will furnish to us the knowledge for getting total mechanic automatism, for production of all goods till integration between computers and robots. ( if you want to know what I am talking about, see my post, title "Nova Tese da Matrix/DNA: A Terra, com seu Núcleo e Continentes, na mesma Configuração da Formula Universal para Sistemas Naturais?!" ( there is an English explanation there)
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Elucidativo e imperdível texto atualizado de como andam as pesquisas e interpretações sobre campos magnéticos:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2014/05/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey-the-electric-boy-background-for-sundays-episode.html
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Posted by: | May 13, 2014 at 10:04 PM
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2014/05/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey-the-electric-boy-background-for-sundays-episode.html?cid=6a00d8341bf7f753ef01a73dc32dc1970d#comment-form
"...without a magnetic field the rate of mutation amongst Earth's living organisms would increase significantly."
So, the magnetic field is evidence for Matrix/DNA Theory models, which suggests that life's origins and biological evolution were previously designed by cosmological evolution and evidence that the Universe was tunneled for producing life...
Tyson said that as evidence for his selected world view, by which the existence of magnetic fields and life are merely products of a blind cosmological evolution walking its way. Yours entire article reveals lots of interpretations from astronomers, and all interpretations have a common background: the same world view.
Never these people try to think the observed phenomena considering possibilities out this box. Let's see how Matrix/DNA suggests explanations for magnetic fields existence:
My method is comparative anatomy among all natural systems, from waves of light (they are systems also), fundamental particles as quarks, leptons ( they are systems, composed by quantum vortexes), atoms, astronomical stellar and galactic systems, lateral pair of nucleotides as a system, cell system, human body system, till consciousness as system. The other difference between my method and the academic scientific method is that I am calculating the reverse of evolution, starting at numans systems and going back till the Big Bang.
About magnetic fields: what's their systemic function? Why heavy atoms and materialized elements have magnetic fields? How they are present today inside biological systems? Why a materialized body emits forces beyond its physical limits? Which is the cause of that? Why magnetic fields must be polarized?
Matrix/DNA Theory explanations:
Magnetic fields are systemic functions, for excretion of inside wasted materials ( negative pole) and absorption of energy/informations ( positive pole) at electro-mechanical level of matter organization. This functions has produced - at the biological level of matter organization - the cilia and flagella at cells systems, the tentacles and extensions of animal organisms, the branches of trees. If you don't see this entire universal evolutionary history, you never will understand and grasp the final knowledge about magnetic fields.
The ancestor of magnetic field, existing at the level of light waves emitted by the Big Bang are the excretion of photons at the final wave and the absorption of inertial space substance (dark matter). The final evolutionary results of magnetic field, observable today at humans bodies are the excretor apparatus and the arms for pick up external elements.
Planets like Earth's are previously designed to have magnetic fields, by ancestors systems. The principal function is opening valvles for excretion of waste produced by nuclear reactions, and the capture of external energy, like sun's photons for keeping the nuclear reactions. Obeying this function, the magnetic field keeps the external planetary layers as reserve of food. It is like a vegetable seed that needs the nutrients inside the amnion and placenta. From here you begin to understand what is gravitational forces.
Ok, I know that, if someone supports reading after the first words, will be laughing and saying that this is the most disparate thing he/she have ever read. And maybe he/she will be proved right, because I am telling about a theory, supported by thousands of evidences, never debunked by a real scientific data, but, still, a theory. It is about a total different world view than that taught by modern schools. I don't care about criticism and smiles that are not based on real proved data. If Faraday was worry when people laughing about his invisible lines of forces, Copernicus with his heliocentric model, Galileo with his mutational sky, Darwin with his transformation of species, the Chyrch was still ruling the schools.
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Obs: Foi postado mais importantes desenvolvimentos desta tese no artigo do Dailygalaxy com link acima, que não copiei para cá, porque estou tendo problemas para acessar o artigo. Verificar depois se foram publicados e copia-los para cá. .
Lista de links:
1) Why Don’t Octopus Suckers Stick To Their Own Skin?
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-dont-octopus-suckers-stick-their-own-skin-180951465/#Dw8C2ATUk7xEjlgm.99
( Os tentaculos dos polvos possuem uma manifestação do mecanismo de absorção/repulsão, a nivel quimico. Ver como isto evoluiu desde seu ancestral a nivel eletro-magnético)
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A posição e tamanho dos continentes terrestres são as mesmas posições e tamanhos de uma unidade fundamental de informação do DNA e as mesmas posições e tamanhos dos astros de um building block de sistemas astronômicos, porque tudo é derivado das posições das vibrações e frequências originadas por primordiais ondas de luz, que se tornaram linhas de forças eletro-magnéticas polarizadas, e a forma e modus operandi de todas estas estruturas estão resumidas na fórmula da Matrix/DNA.
Fantástico! Ninguem pode imaginar o quanto isto significa. Nós vamos dobrar ou triplicar o nosso conhecimento atual sobre o mundo natural, talvez já nos próximos dez anos.
Assistindo "Cosmos- A Spatial Odissey", Episódio 10, e vendo uma experiencia de Faraday, de repente me bateu nova intuição. Tomei de papel e canetas, desenhei o planeta tendo o núcleo à vista e os continentes. Imaginei porque um polo faz a função de positivo e o outro negativo e o porque das linhas eletromagnéticas... pensando na fórmula da Matrix/DNA. E somente agora descobri que se puser o polo sul em cima de F1, da fórmula, teremos a América do Sul em F2, a América Central em cima do cinturão de debrís por onde tem que passar F2, a América do Norte cai em cima de F3, o polo Norte em cima de F4, a Ásia em cima de F6, África em cima de F7... e até o restante da nebulosa de debrís se vê em baixo da Oceania.
!!!!!!
O que significa isso?!
Por enquanto, apenas tremenda coincidencia e minha culpa do porque não havia notado isto antes, pois pela lógica tinha que ser assim: a Terra é meramente mais uma parte do sistema, e toda parte é um fractal, uma cópia menor que mantem como esqueleto, como estrutura, a forma do sistema inteiro, portanto, a forma da Terra tinha que de alguma maneira lembrar a forma da fórmula do sistema universal.
Isto explica muito, já para iniciar, das diferenças psicológicas, estados e até diferença de cores entre os nativos de cada continente. Por exemplo, na Africa o povo é negro como é F7, e a Africa existe eternamente em decadencia como existe F7 na ponta da decadência pela entropia. As Américas estão no lugar de F2 ( baby) e F3 ( o jovem adolescente impetuoso) enquanto Europa é o adulto e pai jovem, por isso sua tendencia colonialista, paternal. Mas deixarei esta parte para pensar nela mais tarde.
O assunto me fêz notar algo: nunca me ocupei em estudar campos eletromagnéticos tendo como base a visão de mundo da Matrix/DNA. O que é na realidade um campo magnético? De onde e como surgiu o primeiro campo magnético? Qual o propósito da existência de campos magnéticos? Qual a substancia de um campo magnético? Qual a função sistêmica dos campos magéticos? Como foi a evolução universal do que entendemos hoje por campos magnéticos? Como a função que produz campo magnético o produziu no atomo, no sistema estelar e no sistema galáctico? Qual a forma visivel hoje nos sistemas biológicos the tem como ancestral os campos magnéticos dos sistemas não-vivos - ou, não-biológicos?
Este capitulo foi aberto para este estudo. E as primeiras descobertas já estão se revelando como algo fantástico, nunca imaginado antes. Vou por enquanto botando tudo aqui a êsmo, para que, um dia, se tempo houver, elaborar um texto ordenado contendo mais uma tese.
Então, se a Terra funciona como um magneto e até os continentes se ligam por linhas de força, como já acontecia com os building blocks astronômicos ( ali as linhas de fôrça são as setas do tempo entre as Funções), então... no DNA deve ter a mesma coisa, algo funcionando como electromagnetismo.
Desenhei isso no papel e faltou algo no centro da unidade de informação que é um par lateral de nucleotídeos, algo que corresponda ao núcleo ( ou ainda a F5). E aí surgiu uma possibilidade que não nem quero nem pensar por ora... o que está faltando ali, que se encaixaria no nível subliminar de ondas de luz e electromagnetismo, aponta para uma descrição... que já foi feita a 5.000 anos atras pelos antigos orientais: chakras!
Raios, isto esta ficando pesado demais para minha cabeça... vou dar um tempo, parar por aqui... por ora.. vou fazer a platéia rir e me chamarem de louco, postando os seguintes comentarios nos artigos com links abaixo:
'Cosmos' recap: Michael Faraday, 'The Electric Boy'
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-cosmos-recap-the-electric-boy-20140511-story.html#page=1I think that will have a great discovery about the Earth's magnetic field. The lines of force are not merely product of the nucleus and poles, but also from the continents. And while the Faraday's perception that the rotation of magnetic field could produces mechanical motion, the new discovery ahead will furnish to us the knowledge for getting total mechanic automatism, for production of all goods till integration between computers and robots.
I have observed just tonight ( when watching a Faraday's experiment) that the positions and sizes of continents obeys the configuration of the elements composing the universal formula for natural systems, called Matrix/DNA. Taking a Map Mundi and putting it over the formula, we see lots of fantastic suggestions: it explains the differences among the genetics, colors, culture, psychology and even the history of development of natives from each continent.
But, if this thesis is right, there are lots of complexity about those lines of force that we don't know yet. First of all, different "slices" of those lines have different properties, intensities, etc.
But, the most fantastic suggestion I am seeing now: this planet, alone, are going to be a new entire stellar system! The nucleus, a star, each continent, a new astronomical body...
The first generation of original galaxies happened by symbiosis, like happened the first generation of cells systems. Then, while the cells learned how to replicate themselves, astronomical systems learned it too. And now I think we can make a new theory for planets and stellar systems formation.Of, course, who does not know the Matrix/DNA formula will not understand one word here.
And more: the differences of slices of a spherical line of force are difference about vibrations and frequencies at the same sequence of the differences we see at any electromagnetic spectrum of a light wave.
And more: the Earth as a system is equal the system that Earth created, called "unit of information of the DNA" - which is a lateral pair of nucleotides. Poles North and South occupies the positions of sugars at the strands, the Americas occupies the position of guanine and cytosine while Europe/Asia and Africa occupies the positions of timine and alanine.
I know that if you supported reading this till now, you are laughing...like those scientists were laughing while Faraday talking about "invisible lines of force"... Faraday was right and maybe I am wrong. I need conditions for doing the experiments, as Faraday did it.
OOOppsss.... não postei o texto acima devido ter excedido o limite de palavras. Só postei o texto abaixo:
I think that will have a great discovery about the Earth's magnetic field ( if the theoretical models of Matrix/DNA Theory will be proved right). The lines of force are not merely product of the nucleus and poles, but also from the continents. The magnetic field have lots of complexity that we don't know yet. And while the Faraday's perception that the rotation of magnetic field could produces mechanical motion, the new discovery ahead will furnish to us the knowledge for getting total mechanic automatism, for production of all goods till integration between computers and robots. ( if you want to know what I am talking about, see my post, title "Nova Tese da Matrix/DNA: A Terra, com seu Núcleo e Continentes, na mesma Configuração da Formula Universal para Sistemas Naturais?!" ( there is an English explanation there)
xxxxxx
Elucidativo e imperdível texto atualizado de como andam as pesquisas e interpretações sobre campos magnéticos:
'Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey' -- "The Electric Boy" (Background for Sunday's Episode)
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2014/05/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey-the-electric-boy-background-for-sundays-episode.html
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Posted by: | May 13, 2014 at 10:04 PM
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2014/05/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey-the-electric-boy-background-for-sundays-episode.html?cid=6a00d8341bf7f753ef01a73dc32dc1970d#comment-form
"...without a magnetic field the rate of mutation amongst Earth's living organisms would increase significantly."
So, the magnetic field is evidence for Matrix/DNA Theory models, which suggests that life's origins and biological evolution were previously designed by cosmological evolution and evidence that the Universe was tunneled for producing life...
Tyson said that as evidence for his selected world view, by which the existence of magnetic fields and life are merely products of a blind cosmological evolution walking its way. Yours entire article reveals lots of interpretations from astronomers, and all interpretations have a common background: the same world view.
Never these people try to think the observed phenomena considering possibilities out this box. Let's see how Matrix/DNA suggests explanations for magnetic fields existence:
My method is comparative anatomy among all natural systems, from waves of light (they are systems also), fundamental particles as quarks, leptons ( they are systems, composed by quantum vortexes), atoms, astronomical stellar and galactic systems, lateral pair of nucleotides as a system, cell system, human body system, till consciousness as system. The other difference between my method and the academic scientific method is that I am calculating the reverse of evolution, starting at numans systems and going back till the Big Bang.
About magnetic fields: what's their systemic function? Why heavy atoms and materialized elements have magnetic fields? How they are present today inside biological systems? Why a materialized body emits forces beyond its physical limits? Which is the cause of that? Why magnetic fields must be polarized?
Matrix/DNA Theory explanations:
Magnetic fields are systemic functions, for excretion of inside wasted materials ( negative pole) and absorption of energy/informations ( positive pole) at electro-mechanical level of matter organization. This functions has produced - at the biological level of matter organization - the cilia and flagella at cells systems, the tentacles and extensions of animal organisms, the branches of trees. If you don't see this entire universal evolutionary history, you never will understand and grasp the final knowledge about magnetic fields.
The ancestor of magnetic field, existing at the level of light waves emitted by the Big Bang are the excretion of photons at the final wave and the absorption of inertial space substance (dark matter). The final evolutionary results of magnetic field, observable today at humans bodies are the excretor apparatus and the arms for pick up external elements.
Planets like Earth's are previously designed to have magnetic fields, by ancestors systems. The principal function is opening valvles for excretion of waste produced by nuclear reactions, and the capture of external energy, like sun's photons for keeping the nuclear reactions. Obeying this function, the magnetic field keeps the external planetary layers as reserve of food. It is like a vegetable seed that needs the nutrients inside the amnion and placenta. From here you begin to understand what is gravitational forces.
Ok, I know that, if someone supports reading after the first words, will be laughing and saying that this is the most disparate thing he/she have ever read. And maybe he/she will be proved right, because I am telling about a theory, supported by thousands of evidences, never debunked by a real scientific data, but, still, a theory. It is about a total different world view than that taught by modern schools. I don't care about criticism and smiles that are not based on real proved data. If Faraday was worry when people laughing about his invisible lines of forces, Copernicus with his heliocentric model, Galileo with his mutational sky, Darwin with his transformation of species, the Chyrch was still ruling the schools.
xxxxx
Obs: Foi postado mais importantes desenvolvimentos desta tese no artigo do Dailygalaxy com link acima, que não copiei para cá, porque estou tendo problemas para acessar o artigo. Verificar depois se foram publicados e copia-los para cá. .
terça-feira, 6 de maio de 2014
Links para Entender a Teoria Atual Sobre Self-Replication
(from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU
+633495 once again brandishes his empty challenge:
"Could we have even one resident evo-nerd please cite a paper where a ribozyme has been shown to catalyze the type of polymerization required for RNA replication"
Try any recent ones by Gerald F Joyce for your mental size, Titbits:
Robertson MP, Joyce GF. (2014) Highly efficient self-replicating RNA enzymes. Chem Biol. 21: 238-45.
Ferretti AC, Joyce GF. (2013) Kinetic properties of an RNA enzyme that undergoes self-sustained exponential amplification. Biochemistry. 52: 1227-35.
Lam, BJ & Joyce, GF (2009) Autocatalytic aptazymes: ligand-dependent exponential amplification of RNA. Nature Biotechnol. 27: 288-92.
Lincoln, TA & Joyce, GF (2009) Self-sustained replication of an RNA enzyme. Science. 323: 1229-32.
Voytek, SB & Joyce, G.F. (2007) Emergence of a fast-reacting ribozyme that is capable of undergoing continuous evolution. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 104: 15288–93.
+633495 once again brandishes his empty challenge:
"Could we have even one resident evo-nerd please cite a paper where a ribozyme has been shown to catalyze the type of polymerization required for RNA replication"
Try any recent ones by Gerald F Joyce for your mental size, Titbits:
Robertson MP, Joyce GF. (2014) Highly efficient self-replicating RNA enzymes. Chem Biol. 21: 238-45.
Ferretti AC, Joyce GF. (2013) Kinetic properties of an RNA enzyme that undergoes self-sustained exponential amplification. Biochemistry. 52: 1227-35.
Lam, BJ & Joyce, GF (2009) Autocatalytic aptazymes: ligand-dependent exponential amplification of RNA. Nature Biotechnol. 27: 288-92.
Lincoln, TA & Joyce, GF (2009) Self-sustained replication of an RNA enzyme. Science. 323: 1229-32.
Voytek, SB & Joyce, G.F. (2007) Emergence of a fast-reacting ribozyme that is capable of undergoing continuous evolution. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 104: 15288–93.
Mensagem da Matrix/DNA: Brasileiros Devem Participarem dos Debates e Decisões dos Grandes Temas Sociais
Texto copiado da minha pagina no Facebook:
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Brasileiros! A sua participação nos grandes debates sobre macro temas sociais é bem menor do que a participação do povo da Europa e USA. Vocês precisam diminuir essa diferença, senão não terão o direito de reclamar das decisões politicas que recaem sobre vossas cabeças. Um tema que está preocupando as nações desenvolvidas é a agressividade da Natureza mudando o clima, que também tem agredido o Brasil, a ponto de ameaçar sua existência. Isto está influindo na sua economia, na sua qualidade de vida e vai determinar a sorte de suas futuras gerações, você tem que empregar algum tempo participando das decisões agora!
Eu estou sendo o único brasileiro a participar de fóruns internacionais sobre estes temas, trazendo a cultura e mentalidade brasileira para o cenário, como no exemplo do vídeo do Bill Nye que já tem 6,5 milhões de visitantes e 400.000 comentários participando do debate, que é a respeito de qual deve ser o conteúdo do curriculum escolar formando a mentalidade dos jovens, de seus filhos, o qual você deve determinar e mais ninguém, pois ninguém sabe mais que você sobre as verdades ultimas que dão significado à nossa existência. Porque deixar que estranhos escolham como deve ser formada a mente de sues filhos? Não existem especialistas nesta área, você é tão especialista quanto qualquer outro ser humano.
Eu não sirvo para representar os brasileiros nem ser seu porta-voz, cada brasileiro deve ter sua própria visão do mundo e sua própria maneira de interpretar os visíveis fenômenos naturais. Minha visão do mundo foi formada num ambiente diferente do seu - no coração ainda intocado e virgem da selva amazônica. Assim, minhas interpretações e teorias são as de um troglodita meio humano meio macaco enfrentando as teorias do homem moderno formado no meio urbano, por isso sou inicialmente ridicularizado nos fóruns até que começam a entender que ninguém tem fatos reais para derrubar minhas teorias e tenho o direito de reclamar que minha visão de mundo seja ouvida quando tomam decisões sociais que virão influenciar na minha qualidade de vida. Você tem que fazer o mesmo, existem muitos "loucos" na cúpula tomando decisões em seu lugar, em seu nome, porque você tem delegado estes poderes a eles, como cidadão.
Você ainda vive em maior contacto com a Natureza do que quem nasceu em Londres sobre uma camada de asfalto e rodeado de concreto e viveu a vida dentro de escolas ou laboratórios com ar condicionado. Este pessoal tem desenvolvido uma mentalidade cada vez mais distante da real Natureza, alimentando uma cultura virtual, artificial, que se tornou uma Matrix absorvendo a verdadeira "alma" humana, agora seus best-sellers mais lidos pelos estudantes tem títulos como "Something from Nothing" - Krauss, o papa da Física moderna, cujo livro diz provar "cientificamente" que o Universo e tudo o mais veio do Nada e por sorte acidental... E isto está vindo para ser enfiado na mente dos nossos jovens sentados nos bancos escolares! Que não reclame depois o pai quando ver seu filho lhe faltar ao respeito, pois não se respeitam "meros macacos melhorados pela evolução...e que surgiram do Nada". Tambem a inércia conservadora dos teólogos e fiéis das varias religiões impedindo que atualizem seus textos sagrados à medida que a Ciência vai desvendando maiores profundidades da Natureza contribuem para que as teorias materialistas se tornem as únicas formadoras das mentalidades jovens.
Você poderia notar que, sem ter sido educado/catequizado por qualquer religião na selva, a visão de mundo que trago de lá propõe esta atualização, reinterpretando a Gênesis, o I Ching, etc, ou seja, mantendo os mesmos conhecidos e provados fatos científicos enquanto se mantem uma porta aberta para a existência dos deuses acreditados por cada povo. A mentalidade materialista que busca o suporte da Ciência fecha completamente estas portas dentro das mentes dos jovens, você deve saber disso.
Não é difícil participar destes fóruns internacionais abertos por cada mídia em seus artigos com destino publico. Mesmo quando não tens profundo conhecimento sobre um assunto, pergunte sempre sobre quais reais provados fatos cientificamente o autor baseia suas afirmações. Ao menos ele perceberá que deve pensar duas vezes antes de expor suas teorias como verdades confirmadas, pois você não é um saco onde pode enfiar suas bobagens a seu bel-prazer para fazer fama e ganhar seu dinheiro.
Você quer exemplos de como tenho atuado? Todo autor crente nas origens da vida por mero acidente - os quais dominam o meio acadêmico - quando começa a falar eu interrompo dizendo que "nunca houve origens da vida em nenhum lugar deste Universo, nem mesmo "origens de Universos". Que todos os passos da evolução se baseiam em transformações causadas pelo aumento de informações sobre ancestrais pré-existentes, e peço a ele apontar onde viu a "origem" de qualquer coisa. A palavra origem leva a crer em emergencias espontaneas vindo de fora da longa cadeia natural de causas e efeitos, e para explicar tal imaginada origens o autor precisa apelar a mistica, seja inventando deususes pequenos que necessitariam vir aqui intervir para que tais origens aconteçam por meios sobrenaturais ou então o autor imagina o mundo sob o efeito de um acaso magico criando tudo numa sequencia de acidentes. Meus modelos teóricos baseados apenas em fatos conhecidos e comprovados sugerem como "vida" e "universos" separados dos ancestrais sistemas são meros conceitos humanos sem suporte na realidade natural. Mas qual a utilidade disso? Ora, tôda: ela forma a mentalidade dos humanos que constroem os tipos de sistemas sociais nos quais você é obrigado a viver. A maneira como um ser interpreta o mundo é a infra-estrutura de sua moral certa, ou de sua moral errada, ou da sua total falta de valores morais. Daqui surge o escravagismo ou o cooperativismo, os comportamentos corruptos ou a auto-honestidade, o amor ou o ódio a você, o cidadão te cumprimentando na rua ou o assaltante te agredindo na rua ou o vendedor sorridente vendendo um falso produto para lhe tomar o fruto de seu árduo trabalho. Por isso tens que ser vigilante e participar dos debates e decisões nestes temas sociais.
Veja por exemplo minha participação em apenas dois links das centenas deles que tenho participado:
domingo, 4 de maio de 2014
(Video Bill Nye) - Sinta o meu Drama Aqui, Entrando no meio da Briga entre Materialistas e Misticos, com uma Terceira Visão Trazida da Selva Amazônica
Veja a discussão copiada a seguir, que está acontecendo num vídeo do Youtube, que já conta com 6,5 milhões de visitantes e 400.000 comentarios! Link para o Youtube:
Postado como Apresentação da Matrix/DNA Theory:
Louis Charles Morelli:
The absence of life's creator - call it God or the primordial atom/marble from Big Bang Theory - here at the humans' world, is explained by cosmological plus biological evolution. The universe is a conglomerate of galaxies, which are the ancestors of ours fresh-meat bodies, like are ours ancestors some bacterias and reptiles. So, we are biological systems growing up inside the bodies of ours ancestors, still alives, or existing as fossils. It is odd, but ours own body is an ancestor of new species of bacteria living inside ours bodies ( genes horizontal transfers).
This agglomerate of galaxies is the womb, containing amnion, placenta, with nutrientes forged by stars. Inside the womb develops an unique natural system, since the Big Bang, which system must be the genetic reproduction of that ex-machine creator, be it called god or primordial atom. Biological systems are merely an evolutionary shape of the universal system, as it is the shape of atoms and astronomical systems. There was no magics creating universes and life, there was no supernatural entities as creator, everything inside this Universe and surrounding it is natural, included the creator.
We humans, are having bad times. We are victims of predators, accidents, natural tragedies, viruses, etc. There are no creator, gods watching and helping us here, like the parents are not inside the womb helping the formation of a new embryo.
Every time that the universal system ( the real embryo from the creator) change shapes ( from a nebulae of atoms into stellar systems or from a morula into a blastulae) there are two evolutionary phases: first, the phasis where eggs are laid out, second, when eggs and embryos are nurtured inside). We are under the phasis of eggs laid out because we are the carrier of a egg containing the embryo of a new shape of this universal system - the embryo of mind, or consciousness.
These two phases were observed at biological evolution: first, from virus, bacterias till reptiles, was the phasis of eggs-out; with mammals began the phasis of eggs-in.
At ours ancestors under the shape of astronomical systems, the two phasis is visible: first, a new baby-astronomical body is produced by a central vortex of a spinning stellar dust ( the womb) and expelled in shape of egg to outside frozen space; second, this astronomical baby falls into the orbit of any star, beginning the phasis of egg-in. This is the state of planets like Earth, today.
So, think about a small reptile as eggs-out. Sometimes, at the birth, it meets a big mouth for devouring it, even the mouth of its own parents.If it survive to birth, the world is opened, full of dangers, could,and possibilities. This was the world waiting for human kind. The mother, the father are far away, ignoring our existence.
When an advanced or evolved intellectual human being understanding its real condition, he immediately understand that the unique supporter he/she has, is another human being. So, he will be a lover of humanity, an agent of peace, a laborer for work, etc. When a human being still has its genetics and mind dominated by animal inheritance, he see other human being as a prey, he/she wish to be a predator.Inside this group are those that invents gods, the high power, and instead lobing humanity, they makes alliance with the alien imagined high power.
We are the carriers of eggs, our heads are the eggs of a new embryo, called consciousness. We are at the phasis of eggs-out. We have nothing for support us, only another human beings. You would understanding it if you was living alone at Amazon jungle, facing the hell,among salvage animals, like I have experienced it. Suddenly you wish another human being at yours side, anyone, for yours life making sense.
There is a signal for great hope to us, revealed by this world: at the universal formula for natural system, really, the eggs-out phasis is merely temporary. Really, the egg never went outside the system. The system is sure that the egg will be nurtured and will have a normal birth. It must be the same in relation to the relationship between us ( as the genes building the new shape of this universal system) and the ex-machine natural conscious creator. What's the relationships between a pregnant woman, her husband, and the new embryo inside the womb? It is the sample for us to understand the relationship between us and the universal creator(s). They are outside the little universe of the embryo. But, it is dependable the level of evolution how much the parents knows about the embryo. How much the parents can watch, taking medicines, medical interventions, when something goes wrong. I don't know how much the ex-machine natural system knows about us, what it is doing in relation to us and all conscious genes spreaded at this universal womb.
I am not deist, I don't like the Bible neither the I Ching nor the Torah, but I like a message from a wise man called Jesus Christ. It resumes everything: "Who is my family? Every man is my brother, every woman is my mother, my daughter... and I need take care of them as they are." The universal sacred family. That's what the brute Nature at the salvage jungle teach to us: no deism, no materialism, only the humble naturalism. But don't follow my world view, I don't know nothing, you need building yours own world view. We are at the phasis of diversification of the primordial cell for consciousness, the morula phase.
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From Matrix/DNA Theory: There is no "coded information" in Nature. DNA is merely a pile of copies of a unique natural system, like 7 billion humans are copies of a unique biological system. There is no genetic code.Code means informations organized by human intelligence ( or other intelligence, if there is any), and Nature has no "intelligence".
The wrong astronomical models made by all humans till now ( exception for Matrix/DNA) has eluded humans to believe that DNA/RNA is a code. It's not. The right astronomical model reveals that the building blocks ( the fundamental units of information) of atoms systems and astronomical systems are the ancestors of the building blocks of DNA/RNA ( a lateral, horizontal, base-pair of nucleotides). These building blocks are a complete working system, where all components performs specific functions and the whole has an identity. So, DNA is merely a pile of copies of the same universal system, each copy with a specific derivation. When these copies are connected becomes a new larger and more complex copy, called genes. See the figures about the evolution of this universal matrix formula for natural systems, from primordial light waves to nowaday shape of DNA. The mystery remains about the source of those primordial light waves, which came from ex-machine, but, from equally and most complex natural system.
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Nicholas Christie Blick - According to 633495, the entire field of molecular biology has left the rails. Only he (or she) truly understands the significance of the genetic code. The arrogance of ignorance is truly remarkable
To Nicholas C. Blick
From Matrix/DNA Theory: Yes, 633495 is wrong when believing that is necessary intelligence for to seed life (biological systems) anywhere in the Cosmos, as if mother giraffe needs apply intelligence for to generate a new baby giraffe. But, he is right as saying that the field of molecular biology has left the rails. The proof is these milenar diseases still with unknown causes, the non complete models of primordial Earth for understanding the flourishment of biological systems, etc. The cause that leads molecular biology, evolutionary biology, medicine, etc., far away off the beam is that our entire Academic Science is dominated by Physics and Math, which furnishes the basics for biologists interpretations of natural phenomena. These fields have elaborated wrong models for atoms and astronomical systems that are the ancestors of biological systems, so, molecular biologists can not grasp the final meaning about the phenomenon they are dealing.
The atomic and astronomical academic theories does not points out the real model since that their cosmological evolution has no evolutionary link with biological evolution. So, molecular biologists does not have the knowledge of the hidden forces, elements, variables, coming from cosmological evolution for understanding biological systems, like DNA and RNA. Only Matrix/DNA Theory has made the effort for elaborating theoretical models of these hidden elements, but, then, the molecular biology theory falls down.
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3) how or why would that RNA sequence copy itself in its entirety?
To 633495 ( "a primordial self-replicating molecule...")
There was no "primordial self-replicating molecule assembling sequences of RNA". Yours own body have thousands of cells-bacterias species that does not belongs to yours body.The explanation for those cells-bacterias existence is the same explanation for those RNA strands inside the Earth's body. But those cells are based on the same initial sequences of DNA/RNA. Do you believe that those cells overcame humongous odds and invented the RNA? The risen of those cells inside of yours bodies mimics the risen of initial biological systems at earth's surface. Because Earth is part of a system that contains the ancestor and half-biological "molecule" of biological RNA. See the model of this astronomical system suggested by Matrix/DNA Theory.There was no "origins" of life, anywhere inside this Universe.
Self-replication is not a process invented by the stupi matter of this lost planet, neither product of aliens or divine intelligence. It is merely the evolutionary product coming from a process existing at prior non living systems - the process of self-recycling. As you can see in the sky when a nebula of stars dust becomes the old star system again, for becoming stars dust and again... The novelty on biological systems is that the system does not need to "dying" for being replicated. Before the biological system dying, it emits a parallel circuit with all informations about itself, internally, using its own still living body for self-replication. The ancestors non-biological systems had a less evolved shape of this process, able only for replicating its used and no functional parts, organs. The great achievement of the universal system becoming biological is transforming that process into a process more complex, which can replicating the whole system before dying. To this you gave the name of "sexual reproduction"
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Zaki Aminu1 hour ago The reason why atheists are so HOSTILE to the notion of INTELLIGENCE in Nature is because it is INSEPARABLY LINKED TO FREE WILL - something which atheists UTTERLY LOATHE - IN OTHERS; although they like to exercise it themselves! What aspiring SLAVER wants to see ANY show of INDEPENDENCE in those he wishes to ENSLAVE? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
My dear 633495, I have a question for you: "What's protein? Why nature created here proteins? From where, at the prebiotic world, nature got the idea for doing biological proteins?"
You never will understand Nature, neither abiogenesis, neither proteins, while you don't know the real creator of these things at Earth's surface. The creator was the state of the world ( and I means: the shape of the most evolutionary natural architecture at that time) that ruled abiogenesis here.It was the astronomical system to which Earth belongs to. And if you see the face of this world ( it is pictured at my website) you will see where nature got the idea for developing the proteins here. proteins are the biological tools that mimics the flow of informations that moves inside the channel of the circuit of non-biological systems. Those circuits are composed by two alternates states ( as waves, transducing time and particles, transducing space). Proteins are the biological counterparts of those waves of time, and the 4 characters at nucleotides, and the organelles inside a cell, are the counterparts of particles of space. So, proteins performs the reproduction of a system, the template that is coming from the sky, form the building blocks of this Mik Way. The template can not have two parts/particles equals for performing a unique systemic function, so, no adenine+adenine.
My dear 633495, I have a question for you: "What's protein? Why nature created here proteins? From where, at the prebiotic world, nature got the idea for doing biological proteins?"
You never will understand Nature, neither abiogenesis, neither proteins, while you don't know the real creator of these things at Earth's surface. The creator was the state of the world ( and I means: the shape of the most evolutionary natural architecture at that time) that ruled abiogenesis here.It was the astronomical system to which Earth belongs to. And if you see the face of this world ( it is pictured at my website) you will see where nature got the idea for developing the proteins here. proteins are the biological tools that mimics the flow of informations that moves inside the channel of the circuit of non-biological systems. Those circuits are composed by two alternates states ( as waves, transducing time, and as particles, transducing space). Proteins are the biological counterparts of those waves of time, and the 4 characters at nucleotides, and the organelles inside a cell, are the counterparts of particles of space. So, proteins performs the reproduction of a system, the template that is coming from the sky, form the building blocks of this Mik Way. The template can not have two parts/particles equals for performing a unique systemic function, so, no adenine+adenine.
Things are a little bit more complex than you and Shapiro are thinking...
think that regardless of which theory or faith is more credible, children should be taught to think critically and for themselves. Whether they support the theory of evolution, or support any faith that says otherwise, coercion never fixed anything.
To Keaton Smith: You are right that if theories elaborated by one human created method of investigation of natural phenomenon, like the scientific reductionist method, all others theories created by another methods of investigation of natural phenomenon ( like intelligent designer) must be taught. But no faith, of any kind. Faith is the killer of critical thinking, it is a close-mind. Maybe intelligent aliens that are not made by DNA, neither are biological systems, have designed DNA and biological systems, why not? There is a third world view, neither materialism neither deísmo, that have elaborated different theories for those same issues, applying different method of investigation, the so called "systemic method". If there are no known proved facts debunking a theory based only on natural real phenomenon and events, it makes a better environment at school for producing opened minds.
It's simply not possible to properly and fully understand
If there was a micro-intelligent-being living at the surface of a ribossome inside a cell of a bone of human skeleton, he should be expert in Physics and Math, because his world is mechanical. It should understanding something of basic chemistry, due the reactions inside the cell. When it tries to understand what have beyond the skeleton, ( its universe) and making a theory of everything, my God! Its Universe is far away off the beam, because beyond the skeleton there is the fresh soft meat, the brain, the thoughts, etc...
This is like the modern cosmovision of this Universe made by Physics and Math. Galaxies composes the skeleton of the Universe, but there are lots more thing out there. For instance, the building blocks of galactic systems are mechanical, but they have a cover of interactions that is half-biological. Every property of life is there, working beautiful, at astronomical scales! But it will be discovered onlt when Biologists will add to Physics and Math in search of a theory of everything.
So, you are right: Physics and Math alone does not explain this Universe and can not see the forces and elements that developed biological systems, aka, life.But, information... What is information, natural information?
Natural information is composed by bits which came from the transmission/fragmentation of the natural system that produced this universe, by a common genetic process. Each information has a "body" in shape of vortex in quantum or almost abstract state. The vortex is a complete and working living system itself. It has seven spiral waves, which are the initial seven brute forces, that evolved into the properties of life at biological systems. Each force is derivative from 0 to 1 and in between there are infinite numbers of sub-states. So, you can give a number for each bits of information, like +1,04857699 and the number can be very large. It happens that those bits-vortexes propagates as light waves, penetrating the inertial substance of space ( dark maytter?) and creating natural systems, from atoms to galaxies, which develops to biological systems like you.
There are two groups of bits-information, one spinning right, other spinning left, and it is the cause of universal duality for everything here.The interactions among the bits is very simple but beautiful, and they were explained by Hideki Yukawa, who earned the Nobel Prize and his explanation about the nuclear glue between protons and neutrons is the same for those two groups of vortexes, how they composes quarks and leptons, after that the super-particles as protons, etc.
Natural information is not merely the bedrock of life, it is the bedrock of consciousness. Life is merely an evolutionary and temporary shape of the son of the system that produced this universe... by genetic process.
Postado como Apresentação da Matrix/DNA Theory:
Louis Charles Morelli:
The absence of life's creator - call it God or the primordial atom/marble from Big Bang Theory - here at the humans' world, is explained by cosmological plus biological evolution. The universe is a conglomerate of galaxies, which are the ancestors of ours fresh-meat bodies, like are ours ancestors some bacterias and reptiles. So, we are biological systems growing up inside the bodies of ours ancestors, still alives, or existing as fossils. It is odd, but ours own body is an ancestor of new species of bacteria living inside ours bodies ( genes horizontal transfers).
This agglomerate of galaxies is the womb, containing amnion, placenta, with nutrientes forged by stars. Inside the womb develops an unique natural system, since the Big Bang, which system must be the genetic reproduction of that ex-machine creator, be it called god or primordial atom. Biological systems are merely an evolutionary shape of the universal system, as it is the shape of atoms and astronomical systems. There was no magics creating universes and life, there was no supernatural entities as creator, everything inside this Universe and surrounding it is natural, included the creator.
We humans, are having bad times. We are victims of predators, accidents, natural tragedies, viruses, etc. There are no creator, gods watching and helping us here, like the parents are not inside the womb helping the formation of a new embryo.
Every time that the universal system ( the real embryo from the creator) change shapes ( from a nebulae of atoms into stellar systems or from a morula into a blastulae) there are two evolutionary phases: first, the phasis where eggs are laid out, second, when eggs and embryos are nurtured inside). We are under the phasis of eggs laid out because we are the carrier of a egg containing the embryo of a new shape of this universal system - the embryo of mind, or consciousness.
These two phases were observed at biological evolution: first, from virus, bacterias till reptiles, was the phasis of eggs-out; with mammals began the phasis of eggs-in.
At ours ancestors under the shape of astronomical systems, the two phasis is visible: first, a new baby-astronomical body is produced by a central vortex of a spinning stellar dust ( the womb) and expelled in shape of egg to outside frozen space; second, this astronomical baby falls into the orbit of any star, beginning the phasis of egg-in. This is the state of planets like Earth, today.
So, think about a small reptile as eggs-out. Sometimes, at the birth, it meets a big mouth for devouring it, even the mouth of its own parents.If it survive to birth, the world is opened, full of dangers, could,and possibilities. This was the world waiting for human kind. The mother, the father are far away, ignoring our existence.
When an advanced or evolved intellectual human being understanding its real condition, he immediately understand that the unique supporter he/she has, is another human being. So, he will be a lover of humanity, an agent of peace, a laborer for work, etc. When a human being still has its genetics and mind dominated by animal inheritance, he see other human being as a prey, he/she wish to be a predator.Inside this group are those that invents gods, the high power, and instead lobing humanity, they makes alliance with the alien imagined high power.
We are the carriers of eggs, our heads are the eggs of a new embryo, called consciousness. We are at the phasis of eggs-out. We have nothing for support us, only another human beings. You would understanding it if you was living alone at Amazon jungle, facing the hell,among salvage animals, like I have experienced it. Suddenly you wish another human being at yours side, anyone, for yours life making sense.
There is a signal for great hope to us, revealed by this world: at the universal formula for natural system, really, the eggs-out phasis is merely temporary. Really, the egg never went outside the system. The system is sure that the egg will be nurtured and will have a normal birth. It must be the same in relation to the relationship between us ( as the genes building the new shape of this universal system) and the ex-machine natural conscious creator. What's the relationships between a pregnant woman, her husband, and the new embryo inside the womb? It is the sample for us to understand the relationship between us and the universal creator(s). They are outside the little universe of the embryo. But, it is dependable the level of evolution how much the parents knows about the embryo. How much the parents can watch, taking medicines, medical interventions, when something goes wrong. I don't know how much the ex-machine natural system knows about us, what it is doing in relation to us and all conscious genes spreaded at this universal womb.
I am not deist, I don't like the Bible neither the I Ching nor the Torah, but I like a message from a wise man called Jesus Christ. It resumes everything: "Who is my family? Every man is my brother, every woman is my mother, my daughter... and I need take care of them as they are." The universal sacred family. That's what the brute Nature at the salvage jungle teach to us: no deism, no materialism, only the humble naturalism. But don't follow my world view, I don't know nothing, you need building yours own world view. We are at the phasis of diversification of the primordial cell for consciousness, the morula phase.
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Postado em Sunday, May,04, 2014, por...
From Matrix/DNA Theory: There is no "coded information" in Nature. DNA is merely a pile of copies of a unique natural system, like 7 billion humans are copies of a unique biological system. There is no genetic code.Code means informations organized by human intelligence ( or other intelligence, if there is any), and Nature has no "intelligence".
The wrong astronomical models made by all humans till now ( exception for Matrix/DNA) has eluded humans to believe that DNA/RNA is a code. It's not. The right astronomical model reveals that the building blocks ( the fundamental units of information) of atoms systems and astronomical systems are the ancestors of the building blocks of DNA/RNA ( a lateral, horizontal, base-pair of nucleotides). These building blocks are a complete working system, where all components performs specific functions and the whole has an identity. So, DNA is merely a pile of copies of the same universal system, each copy with a specific derivation. When these copies are connected becomes a new larger and more complex copy, called genes. See the figures about the evolution of this universal matrix formula for natural systems, from primordial light waves to nowaday shape of DNA. The mystery remains about the source of those primordial light waves, which came from ex-machine, but, from equally and most complex natural system.
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Nicholas Christie Blick - According to 633495, the entire field of molecular biology has left the rails. Only he (or she) truly understands the significance of the genetic code. The arrogance of ignorance is truly remarkable
To Nicholas C. Blick
From Matrix/DNA Theory: Yes, 633495 is wrong when believing that is necessary intelligence for to seed life (biological systems) anywhere in the Cosmos, as if mother giraffe needs apply intelligence for to generate a new baby giraffe. But, he is right as saying that the field of molecular biology has left the rails. The proof is these milenar diseases still with unknown causes, the non complete models of primordial Earth for understanding the flourishment of biological systems, etc. The cause that leads molecular biology, evolutionary biology, medicine, etc., far away off the beam is that our entire Academic Science is dominated by Physics and Math, which furnishes the basics for biologists interpretations of natural phenomena. These fields have elaborated wrong models for atoms and astronomical systems that are the ancestors of biological systems, so, molecular biologists can not grasp the final meaning about the phenomenon they are dealing.
The atomic and astronomical academic theories does not points out the real model since that their cosmological evolution has no evolutionary link with biological evolution. So, molecular biologists does not have the knowledge of the hidden forces, elements, variables, coming from cosmological evolution for understanding biological systems, like DNA and RNA. Only Matrix/DNA Theory has made the effort for elaborating theoretical models of these hidden elements, but, then, the molecular biology theory falls down.
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Louis Charles Morelli
To 633495 ( "a primordial self-replicating molecule...")
There was no "primordial self-replicating molecule assembling sequences of RNA". Yours own body have thousands of cells-bacterias species that does not belongs to yours body.The explanation for those cells-bacterias existence is the same explanation for those RNA strands inside the Earth's body. But those cells are based on the same initial sequences of DNA/RNA. Do you believe that those cells overcame humongous odds and invented the RNA? The risen of those cells inside of yours bodies mimics the risen of initial biological systems at earth's surface. Because Earth is part of a system that contains the ancestor and half-biological "molecule" of biological RNA. See the model of this astronomical system suggested by Matrix/DNA Theory.There was no "origins" of life, anywhere inside this Universe.
Self-replication is not a process invented by the stupi matter of this lost planet, neither product of aliens or divine intelligence. It is merely the evolutionary product coming from a process existing at prior non living systems - the process of self-recycling. As you can see in the sky when a nebula of stars dust becomes the old star system again, for becoming stars dust and again... The novelty on biological systems is that the system does not need to "dying" for being replicated. Before the biological system dying, it emits a parallel circuit with all informations about itself, internally, using its own still living body for self-replication. The ancestors non-biological systems had a less evolved shape of this process, able only for replicating its used and no functional parts, organs. The great achievement of the universal system becoming biological is transforming that process into a process more complex, which can replicating the whole system before dying. To this you gave the name of "sexual reproduction"
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To Zaki: "The reason why atheists..."
To Zaki: "The reason why atheists..."
From Matrix/DNA world view: I am not an atheist, merely an agnostic naturalist philosopher doing my research at Amazon jungle and I am not seeing intelligence in Nature also. Where is there intelligence in the suffering of animals, plants, and terrified scenes that I am watching here? Is the designer a stupid anti-human, against life ?! But I know that from Middle Age to now, there are people with tendency to be predator vampiring the energy of other humans beings, tendency to be slavers, telling to people that they must obey the rules because they are made by a super-intelligence, which the slaves can not understand and so, must no inquiry about "only God knows...".
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Strangely, though, they see themselves as PRODUCTS of this STUPID "nature" - and AT THE SAME TIME think they're in a position to claim that they're intelligent! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! HOW is it even possible to exist with so much SELF-CONTRADICTION within oneself? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
To Zaki: "Natural means stupid..."
Aren't you able to see a third alternative, which is more plausible and intelligent? Even when Nature is showing to you here and now how things works? Look to the natural process of embryogenesis. Until the 7 month, everything inside, every evolutionary event, occurs among stupid matter - the fetus, the embryo, etc. About 8 months the brain is developed and begins to emerge consciousness, some intelligence. The natural Universe has revealed same history: 13,8 billion years and all evolutionary process, every event, everything stupid, no intelligence detected. Only at 13,8 billion years old, here and now emerges consciousness, some intelligence. Do you think it is merely coincidence? Same history, evidences? Do you have any problems that humans' ( a microscopical architecture) embryogenese takes a time shorter than the Universe's time ( a macroscopic architecture)?
There are no parents applying intelligence inside the nine months of embryogenesis, neither the parents makes babies applying intelligence. So, now goes to the Universe, and see what it is suggesting that created it: a natural conscious system that creates universes as wombs for their babies by genetic process, never being necessary the use of intelligence. We came from stupid matter, stupid Nature, but if we got consciousness and intelligence, neither nature neither us created them. Neither magical parents, mether a microscopic marble containing all energy and galaxies exploding under big bangs... This is what the real world is showing to me.
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Intelligence is the undisputed source of information flow operating within the rules of a code.
DNA replication – even in bacteria – has evidently been designed with both surveillanceand error correction functions, rather than merely on physicochemical precision.
James Shapiro (2011) considers these surveillance and error correction capacities to be’cognitive processes.’
Exonuclease proofreading has been shown to increase the replication of DNA by 100 to 1,000-fold over the one mistake in 10^5 precision of the replication apparatus. Thisinformation management function of the cell is carried out by DNA polymerase, serving as both a sensor that detects the mistakes and the activator of the correction functions.
Postreplication proofreading detects DNA replication errors by scanning the newly replicated DNA and binding to regions where the double helix has been distorted by a mismatch of nucleotides.
Here, the actions of three different proteins effectively excise the mismatched segment and replace it with a newly synthesized, error-free DNA strand.
Part of the cell’s intelligently designed sensory proofreading system is a trio of proteins involved in mismatch repair following the completion of DNA replication.
One of these, MutS (Mutator S), is a large protein (125 x 90 x 55 Å) whose N-terminal mismatch-recognition domain can detect, for example, an adenine-to-adenine mismatch.
To 633495 : "Folloying the rules of a code..."
From Matrix/DNA: There is no genetic or DNA code, so, there are no rules of a code. There are rules of organization of matter into natural systems, when inertial matter are penetrated by natural light waves, which, the sequence of frequencies/vibrations are the same sequence that rules any body under the process of life's cycles. This process changes the shapes and functions of bodies during their existence and those different shapes are organized under the same functional circuit, which means "system".
The 4 characters are the biological tools performing the 4 intermediate systemic functions. See the Matrix picture/formula for natural systems at my website: the 4 characters are F2, F3, F6 and F7. While F1 and F2 are systemic functions that uses as tool at DNA the sugars at both lateral strands of the DNA. And F5, the function of system's reproduction is the character called "uracil", which exists only at RNA and makes the duplication of DNA sections.
So, the base-pair nucleotide, the fundamental unit of information of DNA is a system, not a signal of code.
About amino acids: they where the temptative of Nature, at a liquid, organic, environment, to replicates the Matrix formula, that's why all 20 amino acids has as central atom a carbon, which is the atom selected as F1 because carbon is the most exactly copy of Matrix formula.
The mechanism called "exonuclease proofreading" has no surveillance and error correction, it is not a cognitive process. Every reading is made having a template for to fit, the template is the matrix formula for natural systems, and it operates at the level of the energy that flows internal the channel of a systemic circuit. If a reading has any tool/character that does not fit the template, it is obligated to change and fitting the template. Mutations occurs only at "opened sky", when uracil makes the reproduction of the last nucleotide into a new nucleotide that can be invaded by outsiders units of informations, called photons.
But, things are very more complex than you think...
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Part of the cell’s intelligently designed sensory proofreading system is a trio of proteins involved in mismatch repair following the completion of DNA replication.
One of these, MutS (Mutator S), is a large protein (125 x 90 x 55 Å) whose N-terminal mismatch-recognition domain can detect, for example, an adenine-to-adenine mismatch.
One of these, MutS (Mutator S), is a large protein (125 x 90 x 55 Å) whose N-terminal mismatch-recognition domain can detect, for example, an adenine-to-adenine mismatch.
You never will understand Nature, neither abiogenesis, neither proteins, while you don't know the real creator of these things at Earth's surface. The creator was the state of the world ( and I means: the shape of the most evolutionary natural architecture at that time) that ruled abiogenesis here.It was the astronomical system to which Earth belongs to. And if you see the face of this world ( it is pictured at my website) you will see where nature got the idea for developing the proteins here. proteins are the biological tools that mimics the flow of informations that moves inside the channel of the circuit of non-biological systems. Those circuits are composed by two alternates states ( as waves, transducing time and particles, transducing space). Proteins are the biological counterparts of those waves of time, and the 4 characters at nucleotides, and the organelles inside a cell, are the counterparts of particles of space. So, proteins performs the reproduction of a system, the template that is coming from the sky, form the building blocks of this Mik Way. The template can not have two parts/particles equals for performing a unique systemic function, so, no adenine+adenine.
Things are a little bit more complex than you and Shapiro are thinking...
You never will understand Nature, neither abiogenesis, neither proteins, while you don't know the real creator of these things at Earth's surface. The creator was the state of the world ( and I means: the shape of the most evolutionary natural architecture at that time) that ruled abiogenesis here.It was the astronomical system to which Earth belongs to. And if you see the face of this world ( it is pictured at my website) you will see where nature got the idea for developing the proteins here. proteins are the biological tools that mimics the flow of informations that moves inside the channel of the circuit of non-biological systems. Those circuits are composed by two alternates states ( as waves, transducing time, and as particles, transducing space). Proteins are the biological counterparts of those waves of time, and the 4 characters at nucleotides, and the organelles inside a cell, are the counterparts of particles of space. So, proteins performs the reproduction of a system, the template that is coming from the sky, form the building blocks of this Mik Way. The template can not have two parts/particles equals for performing a unique systemic function, so, no adenine+adenine.
Things are a little bit more complex than you and Shapiro are thinking...
Do you know why the building blocks of atoms and galaxies are systems where the parts are connected by an energetic circuit that is composed by waves and particles? ( The answer is at my avatar). Because natural systems are assembled by the dynamics of a process that we call "life's cycles". The human family system is a good sample of that. A complete perfect family should be composed by seven humans, each one at one specific shape: a baby, a children, a teenager, young adult, mature adult, a senior and a pregnant woman. All family and social functions are here, so, this family template should be the trigger for creating a perfect social system. This is the universal natural template for systems, which multiplies as living fractals. The universal perfect system must have the seven systemic functions, which are derivations of shapes of a unique body. What makes these derivations is the force called life's cycle.When the system is a closed one and finally formed, the force becames its internal circuit, linking all seven shapes. But, how do you put in that formula the intermediates shapes that are hidden? I mean: the time that it takes from the shape of tenager to the shape of adult"? It is all about time, and time is a wave. Proteins fit that time at biological level, keeping the informations that existed during that time. Tell it to Shapiro...
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Morse Code Genetic code
dots & dashes nucleotide sequence
wired transmission mRNA
human decoding translation
converted message polypeptide
intelligent code intelligent code
First of all, there is a big difference between a code made with dots & dashes and the pile of nucleotides that you call "DNA". I have a question for you:
You know that no human being is exactly equal to other human being. We are 8 billions. Do you think that there is a code composed by 8 billions humans? Even if they were aligned in a long line? Would it be a sequence? Of course, not.
DNA is just that. Millions, billions of copies ( no one exactly equal other) of a unique species of natural system. ( If you are interested see the formula and picture of that system at my website - there are no advertising there, it is grateful).
You can take John, Peter for composing an army if necessary, them take them for working in a factory, and after that, for a musical group. DNA takes genes A and B for making different functions, also. There is no code, no intelligence is necessary.
Second difference: wired transmission is not made with those bits of the code, and RNA is made of those bits that composes the informations it carries on...
Really you have a point: the process for morse code is not equal, but remember the process applied by Nature. So, what? Men makes airplanes that mimics birds, cars that mimics horses pulling carriages... This cellular or genetic process that converts an object into an image is repeated by the structures and functioning of the brain.The entire process was encrypted in the inner structure of humans, it is merely a copy of something that nature has made long time ago. It is called "intuition".
Oh... Maybe you think about God as Hitler, making engineering of nucleotides like Hitler trying making engineered humans?
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633495
18 hours agodots & dashes nucleotide sequence
wired transmission mRNA
human decoding translation
converted message polypeptide
intelligent code intelligent code
You know that no human being is exactly equal to other human being. We are 8 billions. Do you think that there is a code composed by 8 billions humans? Even if they were aligned in a long line? Would it be a sequence? Of course, not.
DNA is just that. Millions, billions of copies ( no one exactly equal other) of a unique species of natural system. ( If you are interested see the formula and picture of that system at my website - there are no advertising there, it is grateful).
You can take John, Peter for composing an army if necessary, them take them for working in a factory, and after that, for a musical group. DNA takes genes A and B for making different functions, also. There is no code, no intelligence is necessary.
Second difference: wired transmission is not made with those bits of the code, and RNA is made of those bits that composes the informations it carries on...
Really you have a point: the process for morse code is not equal, but remember the process applied by Nature. So, what? Men makes airplanes that mimics birds, cars that mimics horses pulling carriages... This cellular or genetic process that converts an object into an image is repeated by the structures and functioning of the brain.The entire process was encrypted in the inner structure of humans, it is merely a copy of something that nature has made long time ago. It is called "intuition".
Oh... Maybe you think about God as Hitler, making engineering of nucleotides like Hitler trying making engineered humans?
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Keaton Smith think that regardless of which theory or faith is more credible, children should be taught to think critically and for themselves. Whether they support the theory of evolution, or support any faith that says otherwise, coercion never fixed anything.
To Keaton Smith: You are right that if theories elaborated by one human created method of investigation of natural phenomenon, like the scientific reductionist method, all others theories created by another methods of investigation of natural phenomenon ( like intelligent designer) must be taught. But no faith, of any kind. Faith is the killer of critical thinking, it is a close-mind. Maybe intelligent aliens that are not made by DNA, neither are biological systems, have designed DNA and biological systems, why not? There is a third world view, neither materialism neither deísmo, that have elaborated different theories for those same issues, applying different method of investigation, the so called "systemic method". If there are no known proved facts debunking a theory based only on natural real phenomenon and events, it makes a better environment at school for producing opened minds.
633495
It's simply not possible to properly and fully understand
living systems in terms of chemistry and physics.
It's imperative that we acknowledge the supreme role
of INFORMATION as the bedrock of life.
Louis Charles Morelli
My dear 633495. You are right and yours words recognizes that information for life have a natural source.If there was a micro-intelligent-being living at the surface of a ribossome inside a cell of a bone of human skeleton, he should be expert in Physics and Math, because his world is mechanical. It should understanding something of basic chemistry, due the reactions inside the cell. When it tries to understand what have beyond the skeleton, ( its universe) and making a theory of everything, my God! Its Universe is far away off the beam, because beyond the skeleton there is the fresh soft meat, the brain, the thoughts, etc...
This is like the modern cosmovision of this Universe made by Physics and Math. Galaxies composes the skeleton of the Universe, but there are lots more thing out there. For instance, the building blocks of galactic systems are mechanical, but they have a cover of interactions that is half-biological. Every property of life is there, working beautiful, at astronomical scales! But it will be discovered onlt when Biologists will add to Physics and Math in search of a theory of everything.
So, you are right: Physics and Math alone does not explain this Universe and can not see the forces and elements that developed biological systems, aka, life.But, information... What is information, natural information?
Natural information is composed by bits which came from the transmission/fragmentation of the natural system that produced this universe, by a common genetic process. Each information has a "body" in shape of vortex in quantum or almost abstract state. The vortex is a complete and working living system itself. It has seven spiral waves, which are the initial seven brute forces, that evolved into the properties of life at biological systems. Each force is derivative from 0 to 1 and in between there are infinite numbers of sub-states. So, you can give a number for each bits of information, like +1,04857699 and the number can be very large. It happens that those bits-vortexes propagates as light waves, penetrating the inertial substance of space ( dark maytter?) and creating natural systems, from atoms to galaxies, which develops to biological systems like you.
There are two groups of bits-information, one spinning right, other spinning left, and it is the cause of universal duality for everything here.The interactions among the bits is very simple but beautiful, and they were explained by Hideki Yukawa, who earned the Nobel Prize and his explanation about the nuclear glue between protons and neutrons is the same for those two groups of vortexes, how they composes quarks and leptons, after that the super-particles as protons, etc.
Natural information is not merely the bedrock of life, it is the bedrock of consciousness. Life is merely an evolutionary and temporary shape of the son of the system that produced this universe... by genetic process.
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Louis Charles Morelli
Wait... let's go asking the explanation for Matrix/DNA Theory:
What?!! Translation?! Are you saying that a bunch of atoms makes translations, like intelligent human beings?! Ok.you are saying that the ovule of my mother made translation of my father's spermatozoon and I am the result of this operation of translation...Because it is just this mechanisms that DNA ( the ovule), receiving the mRNA ( the spermatozoon) elaborates a protein-fetus, which is infolded becoming a new babby-protein.
What came first? The coded information for human species or me, as a new baby? The coded information that came from apes. In relation to "the coded information in the nucleotide sequence and the translator machinery", who came first? The natural system called "building block of atoms and galactic systems that became a biological lateral pair of nucleotides inside who there is a reproductive process of parts, organs, composing that system, process that you are calling "translation".
Let me explain how works the "ape of the DNA", the ancestor of the DNA. I will take its shape as building blocks of astronomical systems, but there is its ancestral shape also, for atoms, particles, quarks, leptons, etc.
There is a nebulae of spinning stars dust. At the center arises a vortex. The vortex receives dust and comets containing energy in shape of magma from volcanoes of a pulsar. The vortex mixes the ingredients producing balls of incandescent iron. These balls are expelled to space, they are seed of new pulsars, stars, etc. So, the vortex is the ovule, the comets are the spermatozoon, the see is the product. As nucleotide, the sugar at the left strand of the DNA performs the function of the vortex. The sugar at the right strand performs the function of pulsar, mRNA performs the function of comets and dust. The new protein is the seed. From here evolved biological sexual reproduction.
Proteins are the biological counterpart of slices of the systemic circuit of the Matrix/DNA formula, only the left face. That's why all life's molecule are left-handed. The whole left circuit is encoded as RNA and half of DNA.
Translation?! That's fanny... There is embryogenesis of proteins, not translations, my friend.
"The origin of the genetic code presents formidable unsolved problems.
The coded information in the nucleotide sequence is meaningless without the translation machinery, but the specification for this machinery is itself coded in the DNA.
“Thus without the machinery the information is meaningless, but without the coded information, the machinery cannot be produced.
“This presents a paradox of the 'chicken and egg' variety, and attempts to solve it have so far been sterile."
[John Walton, "Organization and the Origin of Life"]The coded information in the nucleotide sequence is meaningless without the translation machinery, but the specification for this machinery is itself coded in the DNA.
“Thus without the machinery the information is meaningless, but without the coded information, the machinery cannot be produced.
“This presents a paradox of the 'chicken and egg' variety, and attempts to solve it have so far been sterile."
Louis Charles Morelli
Wait... let's go asking the explanation for Matrix/DNA Theory:
What?!! Translation?! Are you saying that a bunch of atoms makes translations, like intelligent human beings?! Ok.you are saying that the ovule of my mother made translation of my father's spermatozoon and I am the result of this operation of translation...Because it is just this mechanisms that DNA ( the ovule), receiving the mRNA ( the spermatozoon) elaborates a protein-fetus, which is infolded becoming a new babby-protein.
What came first? The coded information for human species or me, as a new baby? The coded information that came from apes. In relation to "the coded information in the nucleotide sequence and the translator machinery", who came first? The natural system called "building block of atoms and galactic systems that became a biological lateral pair of nucleotides inside who there is a reproductive process of parts, organs, composing that system, process that you are calling "translation".
Let me explain how works the "ape of the DNA", the ancestor of the DNA. I will take its shape as building blocks of astronomical systems, but there is its ancestral shape also, for atoms, particles, quarks, leptons, etc.
There is a nebulae of spinning stars dust. At the center arises a vortex. The vortex receives dust and comets containing energy in shape of magma from volcanoes of a pulsar. The vortex mixes the ingredients producing balls of incandescent iron. These balls are expelled to space, they are seed of new pulsars, stars, etc. So, the vortex is the ovule, the comets are the spermatozoon, the see is the product. As nucleotide, the sugar at the left strand of the DNA performs the function of the vortex. The sugar at the right strand performs the function of pulsar, mRNA performs the function of comets and dust. The new protein is the seed. From here evolved biological sexual reproduction.
Proteins are the biological counterpart of slices of the systemic circuit of the Matrix/DNA formula, only the left face. That's why all life's molecule are left-handed. The whole left circuit is encoded as RNA and half of DNA.
Translation?! That's fanny... There is embryogenesis of proteins, not translations, my friend.
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